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Doctor Who - Series 7 (2012)

Started by Goaty, 02 August, 2012, 01:42:13 PM

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judgeblake

Quote from: JUDGE BURNS on 09 August, 2012, 11:38:41 PM
The cowboy cyborg looks uncannily like our very own MEAN MACHINE ANGEL !

very true!
though I'm sure they had a cyborg alot like him in Red Dwarf once as well.


http://theactivescrawler.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/best-cyborgs-in-fiction.html

Taryn Tailz

#46
Having the Doctor as some major figure in the universe can actually work. I'm currently working my way through the Virgin New Adventures series of novels, and their use of The Cartmel Master Plan (essentially having the Doctor as a God like figure) works very well. Not only did it inject some mystery back into the character of the Doctor, something I feel they could do with doing again now, but it also allowed him to be in the shadows far more often, manipulating events from the background.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartmel_Masterplan

Professor Bear

Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 09 August, 2012, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: Richmond Clements on 09 August, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
But in the old dad we had Cybermen and Yetis wandering over London, as well as dinosaurs - not to mention the Loch Ness Monster swimming up the Thames.
"you humans have a remarkable talent for self deception," or words to that effect.

Not really a fair comparison.

The Cybermen entered London while the world's entire population was briefly unconscious as a direct result of their work.
The Yeti scurried about through the London Underground - closed to the public at the time - and the few that appeared on the surface did so in thick fog.
The dinosaurs mainly appeared after the entire city had been evacuated.

By that rationale, surely it's plausible that when the giant Cyberman was stomping Olde London Towne, most people were looking in a different direction?  Likewise when the aliens invaded and it was on tv, people probably just assumed it was Rupert Murdoch's channels being full of shit as usual, or that it was viral advertising for The Avengers or something like that.  There's this extra on the dvd of Independence Day where they string together all the news footage that appears on tv screens during the film and it's pretty convincing - you'd think you were watching the real Sky News only there's no digs at the BBC every few minutes.

shaolin_monkey

Quote from: judgeblake on 08 August, 2012, 10:34:40 PM
you know what I'd like (apart from Gaiman to take over as lead writer);  for the doctor to think he's invincible and then get a smack down from some higher being - maybe a timelord survivor, and then stranded on an alien planet for half a series.

That already happened to Pertwee's Dr.  Those buggers on Gallifrey trapped him on Earth for most of his tenure, with the odd timelord gambit sending him spinning into some galactic affray. 

I personally think they should try a format of a story over six 30 min episodes, with a cliffhanger on each, or even three hour episodes, again with cliffhangers.  That was always my fave thing about the original series - the Dr, Sarah Jane or whoever, always looked like they were about to be zapped by something at the end of each episode - it was great!  It left me crying out for next Saturday to roll around. 

As for this new trailer, yeah, I'll definitely watch it even if it turns out to be shit.  I just don't want Dr Who ever leaving our screens ever again, even if it means having to watch all the Colin Baker ones back to back... how's that for comittment?!?

vzzbux

My nomination for a future older doctor.






V
Drokking since 1972

Peace is a lie, there's only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.

von Boom

Another older Doctor could be:



Clive Russell.

I've always enjoyed his acting.

von Boom

On an aside note I just read on Alastair Reynold's website that he's writing a Who novel. Cool.

http://voxish.tripod.com/id21.html

Proudhuff

my prefered older Doctor:


the real Brian Cox
DDT did a job on me

judgeblake

Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 August, 2012, 02:30:19 PM
Quote from: judgeblake on 08 August, 2012, 10:34:40 PM
you know what I'd like (apart from Gaiman to take over as lead writer);  for the doctor to think he's invincible and then get a smack down from some higher being - maybe a timelord survivor, and then stranded on an alien planet for half a series.

That already happened to Pertwee's Dr.  Those buggers on Gallifrey trapped him on Earth for most of his tenure, with the odd timelord gambit sending him spinning into some galactic affray. 

I personally think they should try a format of a story over six 30 min episodes, with a cliffhanger on each, or even three hour episodes, again with cliffhangers.  That was always my fave thing about the original series - the Dr, Sarah Jane or whoever, always looked like they were about to be zapped by something at the end of each episode - it was great!  It left me crying out for next Saturday to roll around. 

As for this new trailer, yeah, I'll definitely watch it even if it turns out to be shit.  I just don't want Dr Who ever leaving our screens ever again, even if it means having to watch all the Colin Baker ones back to back... how's that for comittment?!?

I'd only like the doctor and co to be stranded for like half a series.....not a whole series or several series like Pertwee's Doctor.

Charlie boy

One of the rumours for last year's series was The Dr gets stranded someplace for half the series and replaced by an evil clone going about causing mayhem until Amy figured out what was going on. It could have been a great story but it didn't happen.
On talk of who should play The Dr I'm going to confess I'm more than happy with Matt Smith in the role and I hope he remains for a few years to come. If they were bringing in an 'older' Dr I'd like them to find a way to bring Richard E. Grant into the televised series role. But personally, I like to think the producers don't sit around discussing who should be the Dr until they really have to. I like to believe they sit around discussing the best writers for upcoming episodes.

Taryn Tailz

Quote from: Charlie boy on 10 August, 2012, 07:22:13 PM
If they were bringing in an 'older' Dr I'd like them to find a way to bring Richard E. Grant into the televised series role.

Unlikely seeing as they've just announced he will be in this years Christmas special. Still I've always thought he would be an excellent Doctor, and enjoyed his alternate Doctor in The Scream of the Shalka.

Charlie boy

I'll be honest- I saw online he's going to be in the Christmas special this year and although I know it can't possibly happen, I've got my fingers crossed that they somehow bring him in as a version of The Dr. After being disappointed by last year's Christmas episode, I'm hoping for something really big to make up for it.

judgeblake

Quote from: Tim Tailz on 10 August, 2012, 07:44:40 PM
Quote from: Charlie boy on 10 August, 2012, 07:22:13 PM
If they were bringing in an 'older' Dr I'd like them to find a way to bring Richard E. Grant into the televised series role.

Unlikely seeing as they've just announced he will be in this years Christmas special. Still I've always thought he would be an excellent Doctor, and enjoyed his alternate Doctor in The Scream of the Shalka.

I'm still waiting to see if Moffat will nick a few more pointers from Fringe and make Richard E. Grant an 'alternate universe' version of the Doctor perhaps??

Mardroid

Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 10 August, 2012, 02:30:19 PM
I just don't want Dr Who ever leaving our screens ever again, even if it means having to watch all the Colin Baker ones back to back... how's that for comittment?!?

While I haven't seen a whole lot of Old Who, I did watch an episode a year or two back set during Colin Baker's run.

I don't think the episode was that great. I forget the name but it was set on a Morgue planet with that chap from Keeping Up Appearances and Alexei Sayle as an annoying DJ. The Doctor's american companion of the time was quite a hottie. The Doctor seemed to be a secondary character in his own show unlike the proactive character I've seen elsewhere with Tom Baker and modern who.

Colin Baker's portrayal of the Doctor was rather good though.

Greg M.

Revelation of the Daleks - for what it's worth, probably the finest of Colin Baker's stories. Colin is often maligned, but much of what was wrong with his era was entirely out of his hands (not least the bloody costume!) and I must admit to really enjoying his run as the Doctor these days. True, his performance could be variable, but when he's not overplaying it, he's great. (It's when he's not being reined in that things suffer.)