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Star Trek Into Darkness (2013)

Started by Goaty, 11 September, 2012, 08:58:19 AM

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Goaty


Goaty


Final trailer;

Big moment in middle of trailer got me went WTF! [spoiler]Even repeat watch that moment of the new ship![/spoiler]

I am going to see it at cinema!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5ec_rPApKCA#!

Professor Bear

I honestly could not stop laughing at that ship reveal.  Linked to avoid spoilers: http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd74/redhotchillis/asdwq_zpsa9dc0086.jpg

[spoiler]So the evil spaceship challenging the might of the white American Enterprise is basically just the Enterprise only black and bigger - if that's not a field day for Freudian psychologists everywhere, I don't know what is.[/spoiler]

Definitely Not Mister Pops

I really don't like the new Enterprise. It looks like a frankenstein's monster of several different designs. Like Abrams just went through all the designs from the art department and said 'I like this saucer section, but I prefer these nacelles. Sure just stick them together!'
You may quote me on that.

Frank



These individual character posters are on every bus shelter right now, and it's almost spooky how bland and generic they are. The desperate desire of the marketing department not to alienate any section of the mainstream audience, by including anything remotely sci-fi-looking, means those blurred and close-cropped portraits could be advertising a cop thriller, the new Rihanna record or a half-price sale at The Mountain Warehouse (respectively). Aren't unsuspecting punters going to be confused and upset when the gun Chris Pine's firing turns out to be a phaser and Sherlock's playing a robot or an alien or a time traveling evil version of Kirk's son from the future which no longer exists?

The marketing men even appear to be hoping to appeal to fans of The Archers by convincing Radio Four bosses to run an interview with JJ Abrahms on The World at One. Disappointingly, Martha Kearney isn't allowed to subject the film's production budget to a forensic analysis or repeatedly ask Abrahms whether he threatened to overrule Leonard Nimoy, but he does talk (vaguely) about the new Star WARS film (39m 20s).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01s4rv4


TordelBack

It's the same impulse to dress Trek characters in civvies or contemporary fatigues that has been going on in Trek movies since Search for Spock. My Action Man had the same away-kit as the lads in Final Frontier. Anything to mask the fact that this is supposedly about altruistic scientists from a post-capitalist utopia who explore space.  Anything to suggest that this is really all about explosions, and not dreams of a better world.  So surprisingly honest for an ad campaign.

See also: the Harry Potter movies, where the Hogwarts robes (because they're wizards, see?) mysteriously morph into standard school jumpers, and then hoodies and jeans. 

Tiplodocus

To be fair, the posters do have the words STAR TREK on them.  And, with the exception of STAR WARS, I don't think there are two words in the English language which scream SCIENCE FICTION quite as much.
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Definitely Not Mister Pops

Quote from: TordelBack on 02 May, 2013, 07:26:26 PM
It's the same impulse to dress Trek characters in civvies or contemporary fatigues that has been going on in Trek movies since Search for Spock. My Action Man had the same away-kit as the lads in Final Frontier. Anything to mask the fact that this is supposedly about altruistic scientists from a post-capitalist utopia who explore space.  Anything to suggest that this is really all about explosions, and not dreams of a better world.  So surprisingly honest for an ad campaign.

See also: the Harry Potter movies, where the Hogwarts robes (because they're wizards, see?) mysteriously morph into standard school jumpers, and then hoodies and jeans.

My younger sister (who is a fashion student) and I, both share a love of Star trek, and one of the main draws for her, to TNG, was the uniform designs. Apparently the matte black, combined with the assymetric splash of colour, works to both flatter any physique, and desexualize the wearer. It was she that informed me that in some circumstances, certain actresses wore artificial augmentations under their uniforms, because they didn't like the way the uniforms swallowed up their figures.

I also think it's worth adding that I think with the TNG movies, Starfleet uniforms became more militaristic, and this was taken too far with the Uniforms in Enterprise.
You may quote me on that.

JamesC

I always wondered why they changed the colours so that yellow became the security colour and red the captain.
Perhaps yellow just wasn't Patrick Stewarts colour?

Frank

Quote from: El Pops on 02 May, 2013, 08:45:46 PM
in some circumstances, certain actresses wore artificial augmentations under their uniforms, because they didn't like the way the uniforms swallowed up their figures.

How much do you think Deanna Troi's falsies would fetch on ebay? In the case of Jonathan Frakes, those costumes had to be particularly hungry; which is the reason I thought the wardrobe department of the films came to favour layers, chunky knits, and loose-fitting mufti. Patrick Stewart insisted TNG switched to separate trousers and tops because the tight fitting lycra one-piece was playing havoc with his back, but that seemed more like his showing admirable solidarity and sympathy with his pie-loving number two, to me.


Definitely Not Mister Pops

Quote from: sauchie on 02 May, 2013, 09:04:20 PM
chunky knits, and loose-fitting mufti

Like sailors of old, but sailors of old called that sort of material by its French name, gros grainne (sp?) which is apparently where the term grog comes from, because barmen and inkeepers would reserve their dodgy cheap and nasty homebrewed paintstripper for the sailors, who could be identified by their grog (sic) coats.
You may quote me on that.

TordelBack

Quote from: El Pops on 02 May, 2013, 08:45:46 PM...Starfleet uniforms became more militaristic, and this was taken too far with the Uniforms in Enterprise.

Funnily enough I thought the Enterprise uniforms, while hideously dull, looked like the sort of utility jumpsuits space explorers might actually wear.  Could certainly see Chris Hadfield (-swoon-) decked out in Archer's wardrobe.

Ghost MacRoth

Considering even the trailer has lens flare, I expect to be as annoyed with this one as I was with the last.
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