ARNIE IS CONAN (AGAIN)

[Professor Bear]

Shumacher has shown range as a film-maker that has yet to materialise in the canon of Burton, and I stand by my assertion that there's nothing in Schumachers' Bat outings more or less silly than what went before.  And "better-made"? B&R is aesthetically garish, I'll grant you, but in this it is consistent in a way the previous films weren't.  From set design to script, it found its level of shit and stuck to it.

[JOE SOAP]

And "better-made"? B&R is aesthetically garish, I'll grant you, but in this it is consistent in a way the previous films weren't.  From set design to script, it found its level of shit and stuck to it.

and that's my problem, it's not even trying.

[JOE SOAP]

Who wants to direct The Legend of Conan?


"If they asked me, I'd certainly love to – let's put it that way.  But I don't know what the script is.  I don't know what Arnold wants.  I'm a big fan of Conan.  That's a great movie and I found that the composer, Basil Poledouris, basically inspired many of my movies [the soundtracks] like Flesh and Blood, Robocop, Starship Troopers, and Total Recall.  The score of Conan is great.  The style of editing that Milius used was very beautiful, and Arnold does a great job.  He was really the perfect choice." - The Gob of Verhoeven



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[JayzusB.Christ]

As long as the trailer is a long slow track into the great hall of a medieval castle, over sleeping bodies and dead bodies and sundered heads, to a gigantic throne where the great warrior sits, slumped, as fur-clad beauties slumber around his feet. A track up the body to his face, eyes slitted and plotting, iron crown on his head.

It's essentially the opening of that god-awful Death Dealer comic by Liam Sharp (his art was fecking arsom though).

I also liked the smaller scale and bummer ending of Terminator 3 a lot more than the bloated, padded, illogical and over-rated T2, and it made a good chunk of coin, too, as did most of Arnie's flicks that you mention.  He was still bankable, he just wasn't appearing in era-defining projects anymore.

I liked that ending too.  I always enjoyed the first movie much more than the second.  I like a good impending apocalypse, me.  Except when it's happening in the real world.  Which it is 

[qtwerk]

Rewatched the new version last week. Still enjoyed it. More than I enjoyed the originals if I'm being honest.

Hope they play this new one like a barbarian Unforgiven rather than have him go full tilt at it and pretend he isnt really creaking now

Hmmm. That "Unforgiven" type of approach only really works if you have source material as good as "Unforgiven" and a brilliant actor/ director like in "Unforgiven" surrounded by amazing acting supporting acting talent like in "Unforgiven"

So, I think you can see, right there, the problem.

[Dirty Frank]

i feel that the essence of howard's conan is conan's inability to retain what he has gained

an arnie movie that shows king conan reverting to brigand conan would do the trick for me!

[JOE SOAP]

Rewatched the new version last week. Still enjoyed it. More than I enjoyed the originals if I'm being honest.

Hope they play this new one like a barbarian Unforgiven rather than have him go full tilt at it and pretend he isnt really creaking now

Hmmm. That "Unforgiven" type of approach only really works if you have source material as good as "Unforgiven" and a brilliant actor/ director like in "Unforgiven" surrounded by amazing acting supporting acting talent like in "Unforgiven"

So, I think you can see, right there, the problem.

It doesn't need to be 'Unforgiven', but it could be like 'Unforgiven' and Paul Verhoeven is a start.

[Tiplodocus]

As long as the trailer is a long slow track into the great hall of a medieval castle, over sleeping bodies and dead bodies and sundered heads, to a gigantic throne where the great warrior sits, slumped, as fur-clad beauties slumber around his feet. A track up the body to his face, eyes slitted and plotting, iron crown on his head. And as long as the change the name to KING CONAN.

If all that happens, all will be well.

SBT

I beg to differ. Having just reread The Scarlet Citadel (for what must be the first time in 35 years), it needs to start with a tracking shot but, like the story, it needs to be over a battlefield until it slowly arrives at the lone barbarian king fighting for his life.

In fact, add a couple of fur clad beauties  to the plot of The Scarlet Citadel and it has pretty much every element I would want (and remember) from Conan.

[ThryllSeekyr]

King Conan....I thought this was going to stay in development hell.

[locustsofdeath!]

The Hour of the Dragon is just sitting there, waiting to be adapted.

It has everything everyone wants in a Conan story.

[ThryllSeekyr]

King Conan....I thought this was going to stay in development hell.

Don't get me wrong....it's not like I was hoping it would stay in development hell, I'm a big fan of him as well.

[Tiplodocus]

I just finished reading the manificent "Gods of The North/ Frost Giant's Daughter" and "Iron Shadows". Feeling like a bit of hyborean porn, I went googling for images from both tales as I remember fantastic art by  Barry Windsor-Smith and Buscema (respectively) from when I was a fumbling teen.

Long story long, it looks like someone has made a version of Iron Shadows in Thailand that makes all the right noises about being close to the source material.

Aces!

There's also a fan film of Frost Giant's Daughter.  Bless their cotton socks.

[ThryllSeekyr]

I have this[/b] at home waiting to be read.

I've already read one of the short stories when I first got the book (Which I forget the name of.... but still recall large parts of it!) and remember reading The Hyborian Age from one of the beginning chapters of the core rule book for the D20 role playing game.

Where you actually find out that Hyboria is early northern Europe (Didn't know this myself!) and that Conan is really Jesus Christ.

Just kidding about that last one of course, because this is documented way before the age of Christ if both truly exist in the same universe.

Way before the book of Genesis.

BTW....

Conan vs Slaine. Even though a lot of fans of the latter creation say he makes the former look or seem like a boy scout, he still famed for brute strength and cunning while Slaine is semi-mythical (WARPED!!!!!) and relies on a dwarven companion for the higher, higher thinking. (Barely suppress's a laugh at Ukko's higher thinking!)  Yeah, I know,...I know Slaine isn't so dumb either.

Or is he.......?

As he wanders the lands in and around Tir-Nan-Og semi-clad and with that dwarven companion. I guess he had no choice after being caught sleeping around with Niamh.

Of course, I favour Slaine for being the underdog barbarian who hasn't been brought to film yet, but I do know that Conan seems more like a real dude that's never needed magical or goddess support. I'm sure the god Crom doesn't take as much interest in Conan as Danu obviously does in Slaine like the adopted and favoured boy he is and I'm sure one of the entities is made out to be more real than the other.

[JOE SOAP]

The Projection Booth (best film podcast on the web) are known for their comprehensive programmes that include interviews with cast and/or crew and average 2-3 hours in length but they've gone for the mother lode with their 7 hour Conan the Barbarian podcast:





Episode 207: Conan the Barbarian

Special Guests: Edward R. Pressman, Sven-Ole Thorsen, Gerry Lopez, Roy Thomas, Paul M. Sammon, Mark Finn, Sean Hood, Josh Adkins

Guest Co-Hosts: Josh Hadley & El Goro


http://projection-booth.blogspot.ie/2015/02/episode-207-conan-barbarian.html

[ThryllSeekyr]

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