Star Wars Episode 7 and Disney buy Lucas Film

[NapalmKev]

more spoilerific rumours about [spoiler]luke skywalker being the real big bad after turning to the dark side[/spoiler]  if that turned out to be true I'm undecided as to wether I'd like that or not.

I hope that's wrong.

Cheers

[Batman's Superior Cousin]

Where are these rumours coming from?

[Definitely Not Mister Pops]

My arse

[Batman's Superior Cousin]

Good answer

[Grugz]

Where are these rumours coming from?

t'interweb

most of the good uns are from indie revolver and latino review

[JOE SOAP]

If you don't want to be spoiled for Episode VII - stay away from this cache of convincing concept art:


http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2014/10/massive-amount-of-episode-vii-concept.html

[TordelBack]

Ooooooootini! That's the stuff alright.  Spoilerific indeed, pretty much all images that have been described in earlier spoilers, but a bit of a treat all the same.  I like the small starship designs a lot, and [spoiler]Kira's[/spoiler] draft costuming looks pretty cool (but then so did the Prequel Jedi concept art  ).  Not so sure about the [spoiler]rather Revan-alike could-be-Luke-with-a-shave Sithly[/spoiler] chap.  I suppose we'll know [spoiler]if Hamill loses the beard[/spoiler] before production wraps.

[JOE SOAP]

More here:

https://imageshack.com/user/themillenniumfalcon

[TordelBack]

Tasty - nice to see art relating to the Irish shoot, and hopefully it'll look a little less Weta / Game of Thrones in the final thing.  However, I do sincerely wish we could move on from [spoiler]Vader[/spoiler], both in terms of imagery and presumably plot.  I know Disney bought that well-flogged horse, but surely only for glue?

Generally rather positive stuff.  Thanks as ever to Mighty Joe Not-so-young.  Now, I must unsee what I have seen.

[JOE SOAP]

If the Empire are as active as they seem to be in this, those galaxy-wide victory celebrations at the end of ReDux ROTJ look even more stupid. Should've stuck with a more grounded bit of Yub Nub, George.

[Jim_Campbell]

If the Empire are as active as they seem to be in this, those galaxy-wide victory celebrations at the end of ReDux ROTJ look even more stupid. Should've stuck with a more grounded bit of Yub Nub, George.

Wouldn't be the first George to somewhat overstate the magnitude and finality of a victory.

Cheers

Jim

[JOE SOAP]

Wouldn't be the first George to somewhat overstate the magnitude and finality of a victory.

Aye but George and his army seemed to be the only ones celebrating. The rest of the world did a collective cringe.

[TordelBack]

Should've stuck with a more grounded bit of Yub Nub, George.

That goes without saying.

The idea that the selfsame Galactic Empire has been slogging on regardless for 30 years after the loss of its evil architect is one even the books and comics eventually abandoned.  However, if Rebels has taught us anything, it's that the Nazis Imperials really do have the best uniforms and the coolest toys: and that goes a long way to making us feel at home in the story (and Disney did pay handsomely for that particular dressing-up box).

If I was looking for a parallel for what we're seeing in what has already been tried sequel-wise over the long decades since Jedi, Tom Veitch and Cam Kennedy's original, and quite brilliant, Dark Empire (ignore the two sequels) seems to be the closest fit*.  Even though that was set 5-or-so years later rather than several decades, the devastation of a protracted galaxy-wide civil war looks very similar - right down to the employment of [spoiler]ageing/fallen war machines like the AT-AT[/spoiler] as counterparts to newer shiner materiel. 

As ever I'd prefer something entirely new, but if you're going to tread old ground so committedly as this production seems to be doing, you could do a lot worse than to try to emulate Cam Kennedy.


*Although I can see a bit of Ostrander and Duursema's Legacy in there too, especially in the look of the Imperials.

[Frank]

May 1945                                                             August 1945


... and that was only one war on one planet. Similarly, the death/unseating of the leaders who started the conflict didn't mean a hasty resolution for the United States' participation in the Vietnamese civil war - they just appointed someone even more evil to take over from them - and eventual military defeat in that theatre didn't mean that the US scrapped its fleet and abandoned its imperial ambitions.

Star Wars is always going to be earnest and slightly dull guys wearing terry towelling bath robes versus Nazis wearing armour manufactured by Armitage Shanks.

[TordelBack]

...armour manufactured by Armitage Shanks.

Heh.  The first time I ever heard of Star Wars was in an interview on Pebble Mill, presumably around the time of the film's UK release, when that very issue was raised: a stormtrooper costume in the studio was described as being 'made of toilet plumbing', or words to that effect.  The only clip shown on that occasion was of Han, Luke and Chewie in the red control room on the Death Star, with the two lads wearing their purloined armour, leaving me convinced that the guys in white were the goodies, but probably smelled of wee.  Boy was I confused, a situation aggravated when the biggest kid in my class insisted the villain was called 'Dark Vayther', and would brook no dissent.