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Gay Dredd .....lol

Started by Fatboydale, 25 January, 2013, 03:32:06 PM

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Professor Bear

I think the main thing is that it got 2000ad some publicity.

Pete Wells

Yup, I just wish it was a better story.

ABCwarBOT

Quote from: pauljholden on 26 January, 2013, 06:56:22 PM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 26 January, 2013, 12:23:06 AM
The facts are that gay is seen as effeminate by many people (not by me I may add) and that will probably never disappear.    So even the people like me (who don't view all gay males as effeminate) will have to put up with people making fun of the character.     That's the type of thing Dredd can do without.

It's all very well saying people should grow the fuck up and enter the 21st Century but as much as some people won't like to hear many people will always view gay men as a bit limp wristed.   And that won't change no matter how much you throw at them.      Making characters like Dredd gay won't do anything for gay rights..it'll just annoy many people who like the character.

If the perception that all gay people are effeminate is true then it's true because all presentations of gay people in media have been effeminate. Having known a flaming queen who could easily punch the lights out of anyone, and known straight people who have have a certain florid and less-than-macho-ness to them, I'd suggest that gay people, like straight people (and bi people, and all people) come in all sorts of varieties, and if media/comics/tv/etc have presented them as one type in the past then THATS been wrong. For my money, Dredd as a sexually repressed gay man looks and acts no different than Dredd as a sexually repressed straight man.

-pj



I knew a gay bloke who was a right hard bastard but that doesn't alter the fact that there's unfortunately an effeminate stigma attached to gay men and that's not going to go away no matter what.

ABCwarBOT

Quote from: Thunders McQueen on 26 January, 2013, 09:19:15 PM
I think the main thing is that it got 2000ad some publicity.



I don't mind some gay characters in Dredd.    I don't have a problem with a gay judge or two either but making out that Dredd himself might be gay to me is bad publicity and could put potential readers off.     

Eric Plumrose

The idea that Dredd has any sexuality he might actively pursue is radical enough without him "having" to be gay. Which does make me wonder the point of all this bollocks. An attempt by Rebellion to drum up some publicity? Or some journo trying to cause a stir?
Not sure if pervert or cheesecake expert.

vzzbux

That also makes me giggle (like a little girl) when people assume gay men are effeminate. I can guarrantee that most of you on this board had friends and aquaintances that have been gay and you have never known it. To look at my eldest daughters brother you wouldn't guess in a million years that he is gay. I even asked him which girl he was trying to impress by saying he was gay.




V
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Satanist

If this was back in the day of Millar/Morrison Dredd everyone would be going nuts. As a PR stunt its pretty desperate.

Also on a side note is Dredd Straight/Gay/Bi if he actually hasn't wet his whistle yet? Maybe we should just put him down as curious.
Hmm, just pretend I wrote something witty eh?

pauljholden

Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 26 January, 2013, 10:13:14 PM
I knew a gay bloke who was a right hard bastard but that doesn't alter the fact that there's unfortunately an effeminate stigma attached to gay men and that's not going to go away no matter what.

I disagree I think in wider society* hardly anyone thinks that gay=effeminate any more. (and those that do are likely intellectually and emotionally stunted individuals hardly worth pandering to.)

I also think that making a right hard bastard like Dredd a gay man is EXACTLY the way to alter perceptions  about gay men.


-pj
*Though, if I'm wrong on this front, then it's a depressing thought. Society has moved from gay sex being illegal to civil partnerships (and a PM - as loathsome as I find him generally - being in favour of gay marriage) so I refuse to accept that societies perception of gay men remains stuck in a 1970s stereotype.

Ghastly McNasty

QuoteSociety has moved from gay sex being illegal to civil partnerships (and a PM - as loathsome as I find him generally - being in favour of gay marriage) so I refuse to accept that societies perception of gay men remains stuck in a 1970s stereotype.

Agreed. I would say the main reason a toffee-nosed twat like Cameron is in favour of gay marriage IS because he is pandering to the majority of people who DO NOT have a problem with gayness.

Speak to young people, they don't carry the same sexual prejudices of older generations. It's called progress.

Eric Plumrose

Quote from: pauljholden on 27 January, 2013, 06:48:38 AM
I refuse to accept that societies perception of gay men remains stuck in a 1970s stereotype.

Dredd's a bike cop. He's only a 'tache away from a disco hit.
Not sure if pervert or cheesecake expert.

Richmond Clements

Quote from: Ghastly McNasty on 27 January, 2013, 09:58:13 AM

Speak to young people, they don't carry the same sexual prejudices of older generations. It's called progress.

Yup. I'm repeatedly amazed about how unfazed by and grown up my two are about it. It's totally irrelevant to them if someone is gay or not.

Ghastly McNasty

New evidence comes to light. Check out everyone's favourite Dredd panel. Dripping with gay references.


Karl Stephan

Quote from: Eric Plumrose on 27 January, 2013, 09:59:51 AM
Quote from: pauljholden on 27 January, 2013, 06:48:38 AM
I refuse to accept that societies perception of gay men remains stuck in a 1970s stereotype.

Dredd's a bike cop. He's only a 'tache away from a disco hit.

Yeah, look at Rob Halford from Judas Priest. The only ones who were in the least bit phased at his coming out were the yanks :D Didn't change the music, did it?

Mind you, Dredd doesn't like 'taches. Remember Judge Lopez in the 'Judge Child'?



johnjowens

I don't recall Dredd being remotely interested in anyone, regardless of sexuality. I mentioned this on Facebook, about Judge Dredd being "gay".

QuoteIf you want to test if Judge Dredd is gay, should you offer a) a buddy-cop action movie b) a chick flick with chocolate and vanilla ice cream?

The answer is neither. You just offered a Judge unlicensed movies and an illegal dairy product. Judge Dredd is married to the job. That's 20 years for you, creep.

Karl Stephan

Anyway, just as a matter of geek banter, and for the sake of uh, homo...sensitive readers, Judge Fargo was straight (or at least bi) since he slept with a female colleague. Since Dredd is his clone we could reasonably conclude that his sexual orientation is same as Fargo's. To change this would require another retcon.