Anti-Gay Writer To Pen Superman

[Ancient Otter]

David Gerrold wades into it: Gay sci-fi author asks DC for 'balance,' offers to write Superman

[Professor Bear]

They were running out of people who'd actually work for them and now the fucking fish are jumping right into the boat.

[Frank]

David Gerrold wades into it: Gay sci-fi author asks DC for 'balance,' offers to write Superman

They should hire a writer who's openly critical of middle-aged, bearded magicians from the Midlands and see what transpires.

[Richmond Clements]

David Gerrold wades into it: Gay sci-fi author asks DC for 'balance,' offers to write Superman

They should hire a writer who's openly critical of middle-aged, bearded magicians from the Midlands and see what transpires.

Isn't that Grant Morrison..?

[Frank]

They should hire a writer who's openly critical of middle-aged, bearded magicians from the Midlands and see what transpires.

Isn't that Grant Morrison..?

Arf! Morrison claims to be the first writer to give a DC character their own book (i), so he must be pissed to find out the real column inches are to be had by ripping up your Uranian Society membership card. Morrison must be doubly pissed, since I'm sure he thought he would get a lot more press for depicting Superman as an Obama-Care-loving, union-affiliated godless communist in his All-Star Superman.

(i) the little-read Sebastian O, with Steve Yeowell

[TordelBack]

Aren't we doing a good job of getting Card's message out there!   

I'm fascinated buy this line:

The dark secret of homosexual society -- the one that dares not speak its name -- is how many homosexuals first entered into that world through a disturbing seduction or rape or molestation or abuse, and how many of them yearn to get out of the homosexual community and live normally.

Given the levels of sexual abuse that both children and adults experience, predominantly from heterosexuals (a numbers game if nothing else), you could simply remove the word 'homosexual' from that sentence and it would read far more sensibly.  How many people's shaping encounters with the sexual world have taken place in an unwanted, forced or grossly unequal context? That's 'the dark secret of society', that 'disturbing seduction or rape or molestation' takes place all the bloody time, not that it uniquely generates homosexuals.  Reading Card, it almost seems like rape and abuse wouldn't be so bad, as long as it didn't ultimately lead to same-sex love.

Also, as noted here before, the nature/nurture argument about homosexuality is so ridiculously distracting from the issue, when the truth must surely be that sexuality is marvelously complicated, and anyone's orientation is almost certainly a mix of genes, environment, contingency and context, like everything else that determines who that person is.

[Ancient Otter]

Bleeding Cool stirs the pot. And posts on the thread for that article mention how there was almost no reaction to Orson Scott Card writing Ultimate Iron Man and Ender's Game comics for Marvel...

[The Adventurer]

I'm pretty sure there was some out cry from those 'in the know' about Card at the time. I don't think The full scope of Card's worldview was full saturated into the comic reading public's mind back then. And those projects did a lot to bring to light Card's more grotesque views as he was more and more scrutinized.

[Professor Bear]

They should hire a writer who's openly critical of middle-aged, bearded magicians from the Midlands

Isn't that all of them?
You should check out Jason Aaron's blog where he takes the huff with Moore and announces via a blog post to a man who does not use the internet "You don't like my work then I don't like yours because it sucks so there".

Morrison claims to be the first writer to give a DC character their own book

Don't forget how he also claimed to have gone his entire career without ever using rape in his books - I for one am shocked at this admission that he didn't write Animal Man, Invisibles, or Final Crisis.

[Frank]

Don't forget how (Grant Morrison) also claimed to have gone his entire career without ever using rape in his books - I for one am shocked at this admission that he didn't write Animal Man, Invisibles, or Final Crisis.

I wouldn't know about the other two, but someone was raped in The Invisibles? I can remember thinking that claim was probably shite when I read Supergods, but nothing sprang to mind.

[TordelBack]

I wouldn't know about the other two, but someone was raped in The Invisibles?

[spoiler]Lord Fanny[/spoiler], brutally and at length.

[Frank]

I wouldn't know about the other two, but someone was raped in The Invisibles?

Lord Fanny, brutally and at length.

Doh! By Lewis Collins too. I only remembered her being beaten up.

[Professor Bear]

I wouldn't know about the other two

In the very first Animal Man arc, Ellen is cornered in a forest by rapists.  In Final Crisis, supervillains discuss how once they rule the world they're going to run a train on the underage Supergirl.

[JayzusB.Christ]

Don't forget how he also claimed to have gone his entire career without ever using rape in his books - I for one am shocked at this admission that he didn't write Animal Man, Invisibles, or Final Crisis.

Not to mention Dan fucking Dare, again brutally and at length, and a teenage Britney Spears, by a robot.  I love Grant Morrison's stuff, and find his interviews highly entertaining, but he doesn't half talk shite sometimes.

[GordonR]

Doom Patrol, 1989. Grant's character Crazy Jane was the victim of childhood sexual abuse.

It's difficult to see how he could come out with that no rape in my work line with a straight face.