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The Death Of Wolverine

Started by Little_Tengu, 17 February, 2013, 12:44:55 AM

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Hawkmumbler

This is exactly why I don't give a shit about the big two. Quite seriously, they are to damn predictable.

sheldipez

Quote from: Hawkmonger on 18 February, 2013, 08:27:25 AM
This is exactly why I don't give a shit about the big two. Quite seriously, they are to damn predictable.

Still a bit marginalising on that basis, it's like discarding Dredd as just a cop that likes shoot naughty people thus not worth reading  ;)

For e.g. Regardless who they kill off (latest news is Morrison is killing off current Robin in his Batman Incorporated series) Scott Snyder has done a great job of writing Batman from a physiological perspective rather than simply what looks cool.

Hawkmumbler

Quote from: sheldipez on 18 February, 2013, 09:22:56 AM
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 18 February, 2013, 08:27:25 AM
This is exactly why I don't give a shit about the big two. Quite seriously, they are to damn predictable.

Still a bit marginalising on that basis, it's like discarding Dredd as just a cop that likes shoot naughty people thus not worth reading  ;)

For e.g. Regardless who they kill off (latest news is Morrison is killing off current Robin in his Batman Incorporated series) Scott Snyder has done a great job of writing Batman from a physiological perspective rather than simply what looks cool.
I gave Marvel and DC a chance last year for about six months on a monthly basis with about 5 title's each. Now I know they litteraly have hundreds of series running at any one time but none of what I read was of any interest to me what so ever, so I bailed. My issue with super hero's these day's is that it feel's like a dead end deal, everything on the cards has been done already and frankly most of it was hardly invigorating in the first plasce. I have a few DC TPB's in my collection (Batman The Long Halloween, Batman Court of Owls) but these are the rare examples where something of interest hit's me, rather than just being a eye rolling phenomena of 'oh shock horror look who's back from the dead'. Might seem narrow minded of me but frankly this is how I feel, Marvel and DC play it easy every time.

Little_Tengu

Quote from: sheldipez on 18 February, 2013, 09:22:56 AM
Still a bit marginalising on that basis, it's like discarding Dredd as just a cop that likes shoot naughty people thus not worth reading  ;)

Well Dredd is at the very least consistent in it's narrative and thankfully hasn't gotten dull quite yet

At least to me anyways

Alski

YAWN... WOlverine dies, is obl;iterated, cast to teh wonds etc.

BUT... One single cell remains, and the painful, slow regrowth takes place, until he finally returns, but not as he was....

etc etc etc. Bollocks to shit like that.
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sheldipez

Quote from: Alski on 18 February, 2013, 12:19:04 PM
BUT... One single cell remains, and the painful, slow regrowth takes place, until he finally returns, but not as he was....

He can certainly take a beating and survive


Professor Bear

Good find, SP - the single worst Wolverine story I have ever read, which is saying something as it was something like the third Wolverine story I had ever read at the time.

There was some dimension-hopping series published by Marvel in the last few years where Wolverine died in every single issue.  He's also dead in Ultimate Marvel and pretty much all the sub-imprints where the cliche is basically "oh no they killed Wolverine surely all bets are off anything can happen"  except Peter Parker kissing a man or a superheroine being overweight, obviously.

Quote from: Hawkmonger on 18 February, 2013, 11:03:05 AMI gave Marvel and DC a chance last year for about six months on a monthly basis with about 5 title's each. Now I know they litteraly have hundreds of series running at any one time but none of what I read was of any interest to me what so ever, so I bailed.

Time and wisdom have revealed to me that the only self-contained superhero books these days are the one-off tie-ins with the big events they have every six months.  People like Kieron Gillen and Si Spurrier (and latterly Al Ewing) produce stories that - in being set during the big crossovers but incapable of influencing those events' pre-ordained storylines - are self-contained despite being set within an ongoing continuity.  The regular books are a write-off for various reasons, but mainly because even if you do find yourself getting along well with some fun fringe title that occupies its own little corner of the Marvel universe, sooner or later, without fail, one or more of the characters will be co-opted for a spin-off of a branded team title like Avengers or X-Men.
Otherwise, I wouldn't really bother with superhero books beyond trade collections, but even then you need a road map to know what to read these days.

Bat King

That link doesn't work at my workplace (silly filters) does it say this happens in Marvel Universe or Ultimate Universe? Because they did this stunt with Peter Parker but killed him in Ultimate Universe not Marvel Universe.

If they do it in Ultimate Universe they can do a Wolverines mini. Of course if they kill him in Marvel Universe but not Ultimate Universe they can still do Wolverines mini.

And if they dead him dead he can still heal over a longer time if they want.

Or someone can wake up in a shower.

Or Middenface could dig him up from under some stones.
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Professor Bear

Most likely they'd just replace him with the dull X23 as part of a big "look Wolverine is a lady" PR gimmick.

Zarjazzer

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 17 February, 2013, 03:24:26 PM
Quote from: Zarjazzer on 17 February, 2013, 02:52:42 PM
12 months tops before Wolvie returns. Of course it could be the ultimate twoothy/marvel cross over Wulferine. Two souls in one tortured body.  ;)

12 months? For their cash cow? I'll give it 3.

Inspired idea for a crossover, by the way!
And I'm off to trademark it now. Just kidding in case the lawyers are watching. I'd do it in the manner of this fine movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067245/

And think of how we could contrast the Wulf and Wolv, one a hairy psychopath with battle frenzy and the
other-um :-\

At least this thread has reminded me of some of the bit s o f the big two i missed Court of owls looks great and I must try some Marvel again.Maybe some more cosmic stuff.

The Justice department has a good re-education programme-it's called five to ten in the cubes.

Dandontdare

Quote from: Bat King on 18 February, 2013, 02:23:57 PM
That link doesn't work at my workplace (silly filters) does it say this happens in Marvel Universe or Ultimate Universe? Because they did this stunt with Peter Parker but killed him in Ultimate Universe not Marvel Universe.

If they do it in Ultimate Universe they can do a Wolverines mini. Of course if they kill him in Marvel Universe but not Ultimate Universe they can still do Wolverines mini.

He's already dead in the ultimate universe - At the end of Ultimatum Magneto took control of Iron man's armour and blasted him. They recovered a single admantium forearm but Shield tests showed not a single living cell was left. As far as I know he's stayed dead (along with virtually all the original Xmen)