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Started by Bongo_clive, 18 March, 2014, 06:17:24 PM

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Greg M.

Quote from: sauchie on 06 April, 2014, 02:51:33 PM

I suppose The Kinda Dead Man was the kinda Judgement Day consequences and repercussions story we were all arguing (in the wake of Chaos Day) was a necessity for any epic to be considered a valid part of the continuing Dredd macro-narrative.

Ennis got a couple of his best stories out of the aftermath of his epic - 'Last Night Out', and 'Unwelcome Guests', the latter with its memorable "Where were YOU on Judgement Day?" line.

ZenArcade

Christ, the more I read this thread, the more my mind recoils from the 800's. Finn just about sums up the sheer will sapping tedium. I'm proud to say I've never read one single page of this utter bollocks. Z
Ed is dead, baby Ed is...Ed is dead

TordelBack

Amen, ZenArcade.  What I really enjoy about the Worst Prog Quest is that this is all so firmly in the past.  There's been nothing that fits into this category, or even comes close, for a dozen years.  That we can chart the prog's rise and fall and rise again is a wonderful thing.

One day I'll have to undertake a proper prog-slog of my own, just to experience the roller-coaster effect,

Frank

Quote from: ZenArcade on 06 April, 2014, 06:53:52 PM
Finn just about sums up the sheer will sapping tedium. I'm proud to say I've never read one single page of this utter bollocks

We'll add psychic reading to your list of accomplishments! Finn was an interesting fuck-you to the po-faced politicking of Third World War, with the painfully right-on cast members bewildered to find themselves transplanted to (and obeying the rules and archetypes of) the most base genre fiction. It was fun to watch Mills torching the politically aware and progressive body of work he'd created over the previous decade, and give the ignorant and ungrateful proles what he imagined they wanted (conspiracy theories and hot lesbians), but not for more than one series.


ZenArcade

Amen, I came back in the early 1800's and since the Cold Deck through Ulysees Sweet to Titan I have to say I'm in hog heaven. The prog is a much more enjoyable thing. It now has the old balance between the serious and the utterly insane. The balance is a dream, long may it last. Z:-D
Ed is dead, baby Ed is...Ed is dead

I, Cosh

Quote from: ZenArcade on 06 April, 2014, 06:53:52 PM
Finn just about sums up the sheer will sapping tedium. I'm proud to say I've never read one single page of this utter bollocks. Z
I'm quite happy to spout shite on the internet too, but this non-sequitur makes you sound like a complete buffoon.
We never really die.

Trout

Quote from: The Cosh on 06 April, 2014, 08:21:13 PM
Quote from: ZenArcade on 06 April, 2014, 06:53:52 PM
Finn just about sums up the sheer will sapping tedium. I'm proud to say I've never read one single page of this utter bollocks. Z
I'm quite happy to spout shite on the internet too, but this non-sequitur makes you sound like a complete buffoon.

A harsh thing to call him, Cosh. But... why condemn something you haven't read? I quite liked Finn during my last re-read. You should take a look.

I'm thinking of watching Farscape.  :)

ZenArcade

Jeez cosh, calm down buddy. I read finn when I used to buy crises. I hated the charachter there and couldn't be bothered with the translation to the prog. Hence the never read it post. I found the prog in the 800's and 900's to be unreadable, pointing out Finn as an example of what summed this up for me. This dark time stopped me and I guess many others from continuing with a comic we had read and loved for a good many years.I am happy to engage in any reasonables banter in this thread, but I'll stop at personal insults; you should consider doing likewise. Z.
Ed is dead, baby Ed is...Ed is dead

Frank

Quote from: Trout on 06 April, 2014, 08:25:07 PM
I'm thinking of watching Farscape.

You've taken that too far. Why not just go see the new Muppet movie instead?


Frank

Quote from: ZenArcade on 06 April, 2014, 08:40:36 PM
I read finn when I used to buy crises. I hated the charachter there and couldn't be bothered with the translation to the prog

There was less of the hey, why get hung up about my wanting to sleep with other people Hollyoaks inter-racial relationship melodrama and being haunted by his tour of duty on the Shankhill Road once Mills transplanted him from Central America to Cornwall, shoved an uzi in each of his hands, oiled and airbrushed his pecs, and phoned David Icke to see if he could think of an interesting villain for him to fight.


I, Cosh

Quote from: ZenArcade on 06 April, 2014, 08:40:36 PM
Jeez cosh, calm down buddy. I read finn when I used to buy crises. I hated the charachter there and couldn't be bothered with the translation to the prog. Hence the never read it post. I found the prog in the 800's and 900's to be unreadable, pointing out Finn as an example of what summed this up for me. This dark time stopped me and I guess many others from continuing with a comic we had read and loved for a good many years.I am happy to engage in any reasonables banter in this thread, but I'll stop at personal insults; you should consider doing likewise. Z.
Okay, this makes things a bit clearer. I'm definitely not in the "If you can't say something nice..." camp but, equally, I don't see how it qualifies as a personal insult to point out that saying something which you haven't read is "utter bollocks" makes you sound stupid. It's a simple statement of fact.

Characters with the same names, different stories, different readership, different approach. Unless you held on to the bitter end of Crisis but, even then, the broader, comic Finn of the 2000AD era is never as much in evidence.
We never really die.

ZenArcade

Ok sauchie, I'm now going to put myself through approx 5 hours torture and dig out the old progs and read the damn strip!!!Z
Ed is dead, baby Ed is...Ed is dead

I, Cosh

Quote from: sauchie on 06 April, 2014, 08:52:04 PM
Quote from: ZenArcade on 06 April, 2014, 08:40:36 PM
I read finn when I used to buy crises. I hated the charachter there and couldn't be bothered with the translation to the prog
There was less of the hey, why get hung up about my wanting to sleep with other people Hollyoaks inter-racial relationship melodrama and being haunted by his tour of duty on the Shankhill Road once Mills transplanted him from Central America to Cornwall, shoved an uzi in each of his hands, oiled and airbrushed his pecs, and phoned David Icke to see if he could think of an interesting villain for him to fight.
Or this. I too disliked Finn on his original run in the Prog but warmed to him on a reread and actually thought the lengthy Interventions story to be one of 90s Mills best contributions to the Prog.
We never really die.

ZenArcade

Cosh, I'm gonna let it go after this post. There should probably be a wee bit of a pause between thought and action in posting comments on on the thread which people (myself in this instance) may  take as unmannerly and unfriendly. I follow the site every day, read and enjoy/agree/disagree with the threads, post my views as plainly and cogently as possible (evidently not as cogently as I may have wished in this instance) but I reiterate, I do not personally insult people. If you wished to point out what you thought to be a flaw in the essential logic of my post at least be witty like sauchies funny admonishment.  Anyhow ever onwards eh. Z
Ed is dead, baby Ed is...Ed is dead

Frank

Quote from: ZenArcade on 06 April, 2014, 09:02:25 PM
I'm now going to put myself through approx 5 hours torture and dig out the old progs and read the damn strip!!!Z

Read a few issues of Crisis featuring 'Paul' before you dive into the sexy witches and alien/lizard members of the Garrick Club. The contrast is hilarious.