are we minority?or the one true vioce.

[Wake]

There are over 10000 unique email addresses in the site's register, and therefore also on the mailing list. Fewer than 1000 people have opted out of the irregular Rebellion/2000AD emails, though perhaps more people would opt out if they were sent more often.

Each week the site is visted by over 5000 different Internet addresses, though this will include a large amount of duplication since you often get a different IP address every time you connect.

In addition to the 129 site users with icons (some duplication, some inactive users), 57 greys have entered the chat room in the past month and a few greys use the message board but not the chat room.

It would be nice to have a feature in the Megazine on the website...maybe I'll see about plugging this later in the year.

Another possibility would be a 'know your website' email to go to the mailing list to let people know what is now available on the site.

Wake

[Malchidiel]

Foosh! I bet you can even tell when we all go to the loo, eh Wake :)

[Trout]

"Read back through the posts and see how many are about king trout"

Hmmm. Not as many as it might seem. The relative numbers of posts are here for all to see.

I do admit to going a little overboard sometimes, in the interests of having a laugh.
But I try to stay on-topic as much as possible, and take part in almost every comics-related discussion that happens here, this one included.

I would add that almost all of us must have joined the board after reading past posts. I wasn't put off by "banter" or outright arguments.

I'm not getting shirty, Logan, but I think one of the strengths of this board is that we get away with a little bit of misbehaviour.

Indeed, much of the off-topic stuff works well because it's shown me, at least, how much I have in common with the other boarders.

But I think Arthur's behaviour is unwholesome. BAN HIM! :-)

- Trout

[ukdane]

I mean who here thinks that Sin/Dex are great, when any true 2000AD reader knows that they are complete crap.


Oh, C'mon!

[El Spurioso]

Case in point.  Sin/Dex = great for the casual reader, great for the younger audience, great for pun-obsessed loonies, awful for the fanatics*.

"One man's poison..."




* Please note that generalised terms such as 'fanatic', 'football hooligan' and 'obsessive-compulsive-fanboy-scum' are not intended to be derogatory in any way.

[Quirkafleeg]

"Gobble gobble one of us!"

[Art]

You forgot the picture...

Also none of us can light cigarettes using only our chins. http://www.2000adonline.com/images/photos/shedcon1.jpg">

[Trout]

AAAAGH! Stop posting that!

Hey, has anyone else noticed Oddboy looks like he's giving me a lapdance?

I'll get me coat, again.

(Anyway, the success of Shedcon shows this board is well worth the effort.
I also strongly disagree that the off-topic daftness round here ever puts people off joining.
I'd be put off participating if it was boring.)

- Trout

[W. R. Logan]

>I'm not getting shirty, Logan, but I think one of the strengths of this board is that we get away with a little bit of misbehaviour.

As I said "I like the off topic chat, the quirkiness and irreverent nature of the board" So put your crown on straight and act regally before I launch 29 T.A.D.?s at your kingdom 8-)

My point is that if you were what ever a normal 2000AD reader is supposed to be and took a peek at the board, you?d at times for being forgiven for thinking the link had taken you to a completely different place, where 2000 can at times be the minority subject. Read through the posts and you see that yes on the whole it is a good natured place, the majority of boarders have a good relationship and the fact that it is a bit clicky is another reason that people may think twice about joining in any conversation.
Every good thing about this board can also be used against it for reasons that people don?t join in, 1000 registered users, 5000 different computers looking at the site each week and only a 100 or so message boarders of which less than half of those regularly post.
A great place to be this may be, but we the vocal minority must be putting people off in some way, either that or were just too boring 8-)

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.http://www.2000ad.nu/classof79/images/logan.gif">

[Trout]

There you're assuming something negative is happening to "put them off."

Maybe they just don't want to take part in a message board. I know I never had before I had a look at this one.

TADs? Pah. My fishy powers...

etc
etc
etc

- Trout

[Oddboy]

But SHEESH! if 5000 people were all posting as much as the 100-or-so that do at the moment, the board would be too full to cope with!

[W. R. Logan]

>There you're assuming something negative is happening to "put them off."

Unless something really positive is stopping them joining in, like having a life.

I?ll repeat, 5000 hits a week, 1000 registered users, 100+ board members, you?d think that the odd one might pop up and say you know that sin/dex is bloody great, or Siku now there?s an artist who should be in 2000 every week.

28,000 2000AD readers you?d think that more than 1 in every 250 may like to join like minded people and voice the occasional opinion on what?s in this weeks Prog or talk about days of old.

Maybe we should take the bull by the horns and on the opening page of the web site there should be a quick guide to the message board. Get rid of all the other news, job offers, Frazer Irving bum kissing, Dredd:Con 3 reports and tripwire features and just put up a quick piece on the message board, link it to a page listing the benefits. Tell people that you wont get spam, can read online or get the messages by e-mail, give them a guide to the pros and cons.

Put it up for the two weeks following the next Jump on point and see how it goes, there can be no excuse then for the multiple people that visit the site from knowing there is a message board amongst the plethora of other stuff on the site.

Let them join 2000 AA, 2000AD Anonymous, hello my name is William Logan and I read 2000AD, I?ve read 2000AD today and I?ll probably read 2000Ad tomorrow.

Hello William, everyone claps and we move on to the next person.

La Placa Rifa,
W. R. Logan.

[Trout]

Now, I know you're just trying to wind us all up, but I'm taking the point anyway.

Rebellion should publicise the site better.

On some of your other points, I hope you'll forgive me for starting a new thread.

- Trout

[paulvonscott]

"Case in point. Sin/Dex = great for the casual reader, great for the younger audience, great for pun-obsessed loonies, awful for the fanatics*."

Si, if dismissing an entire raft of views because you believe they are fanatical isn't offensive, what is?  Again, this seems like a politically motivated argument to me and one with at the best Spurious evidence.

All I'd say is what evidence do you have that anything you have said about Sin Dex is true.  Not heresay or speculation, what evidence?

For example, out of the fanatics, I know thirty year old readers (in your obsessive bracket) who love Sin Dex, and young readers (who are here also, so they are obsessive by default I suppose) who don't like Sin Dex.  I know older readers that aren't fanatical (despite being really into 2000AD, they don't use this site) who hate sin dex, one of many effectively invisible views.

I personally think a detailed survey with the chance to win one of a choice of some gobsmacking prizes (that would appeal to a broad spectrum of readers, whether that's a computer and the dredd game, a complete set of those AD reprints, original artwork, silly statues or whatever, basically having a couple of grands worth of prizes to get the buggers to send it back) and was heavily supported could tell you what a good proportion of readers actually thought.  

Something that even the most informed and green hued among us can only make an educated guess at.

Sorry for all that, but it is a political argument, denagrating one side for advancement of your own opinion, and for me it has to be argued against.
 
As for Logans comments, One thing that may put people off the message board and chat room, is that the people who do use it DO NOT spend all their time talking fanatically about 2000AD.  In fact, if you turn up it's likely to be off topic.  Again it seems the fanatics are the ones who don't talk about 2000AD constantly, which seems odd.

[Trout]

My cat's name is Mittens.

- Ralph