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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #165 on: 23 June, 2019, 03:32:17 pm »
All of that historical data begs the question: what number the current readership?

The most recent (self) reported figure was 15,000 in August 2013. Tharg's since let it be known that although retail sales are down subscription numbers increased to compensate for this, but didn't offer figures on either.

Rebellion Publishing has reported net-losses in recent years.



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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #166 on: 23 June, 2019, 03:40:30 pm »

Rebellion Publishing has reported net-losses in recent years.

Almost certainly owing to heavy investment purchasing things like the IPC/Fleetway back catalogue, as has been mentioned before. You can’t infer any direct information about sales revenue from this.
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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #167 on: 23 June, 2019, 03:47:12 pm »

Rebellion Publishing has reported net-losses in recent years.

Almost certainly owing to heavy investment purchasing things like the IPC/Fleetway back catalogue, as has been mentioned before. You can’t infer any direct information about sales revenue from this.

Yeah, I'm not trying to make any kind of point, just share the information. It would help if I'd supplied the correct link:

https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/06993175-rebellion-publishing-limited



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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #168 on: 23 June, 2019, 04:07:58 pm »
Thanks for the links, Frank - that Grauniad film I hadn't seen before, and was well good.  (It also had a couple of older articles linked below it, for Judge Dredd gets first female writer and Is Judge Dredd gay?*)

Thanks for the additional context, Jim.


*Which follows Betteridge's law.
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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #169 on: 06 July, 2019, 09:04:32 pm »

Only tangentially related to 2000ad, but then so was Toxic and that got a couple of pages all to itself in TPO.

Pat Mills & Kev O'Neill own all rights to Marshal Law ... except the publishing rights* (including the right to produce new material). Comics are a funny old game.


* Which reside with DC. Mills always says it's up to DC whether any more Marshal Law is ever produced, so I think he and O'Neill entered into something like the arrangement Edginton and D'Israeli struck with Tharg over Scarlet Traces to get the DC reprint of existing material into production, with the promise of new material - a Batman crossover - that, because of DC, never materialised.

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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #170 on: 12 July, 2019, 07:58:47 pm »

The year they revived the Eagle awards, in the Best Writer category, I won third place, second place, and first (laughs). John Wagner was third, TB Grover second, and John Howard came first!

John Wagner speaking to the 1977 group



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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #171 on: 12 July, 2019, 11:01:52 pm »
Bought Grant Morrison's "Super Gods" for 50p at the charity shop - will report back any interesting Zenith/2000AD snippets if I can make it that far!

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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #172 on: 12 July, 2019, 11:10:04 pm »

The year they revived the Eagle awards, in the Best Writer category, I won third place, second place, and first (laughs). John Wagner was third, TB Grover second, and John Howard came first!

I didn't think it too many.

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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #173 on: 24 July, 2019, 07:15:06 pm »




John Wagner & Brian Bolland's Punks Rule (110) rewrites and redraws Peter Harris* and Mick McMahon's** Judge Whitey (002). A criminal gang challenge Justice Department's rule by setting themselves up as a parody of judges; Dredd refuses the Chief Judge's offer of help and takes them down alone as a display of superiority.

In terms of ideas, Harris & McMahon outdo Wagner & Bolland. From the killer one-two of Carlos's Bank Raid image and the Empire State lost in a sea of massive starscrapers, Dredd's Roy Rogers trick of sending his horse on ahead, and the neat twist of marooning Whitey on Devil's Island, Whitey's an objectively better strip.

Dredd (and Wagner's) entire plan is to walk very slowly into Punk territory, dishing out insults and kickings as a garbage truck trundles behind him, filling up with unconscious Punks. Rather than devise an apposite punishment for Gestapo Bob, he just humiliates him. Yet Wagner's story is better written and it's a better Dredd story.

After two years of variable quality and subject matter, Wagner's just found the character and the tone of the strip. Dredd's a bully but it's kind of fun to watch him at work, and his cruel exile of the Punks leaves the reader feeling he's come out on top, rather than emo-Dredd whining that they're all going to end up like Judge Alvin***


* With heavy subbing and original ideas by Pat Mills & Kelvin Gosnell

** With an incredible, impactful opening image by the irreplaceable King Carlos

*** And that's why Wagner remained the dominant Dredd writer. You could write a better story than him, you could dream-up more and better ideas than him, and his Dredd stories would still be better than yours

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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #174 on: 05 August, 2019, 08:29:45 pm »

The idea that Dredd's gun was booby-trapped first featured in Malcolm Shaw and Mick McMahon's Wreath Murders, prog 24. Thanks to Lee Jones of the Megaverse group for the leg work - Lee also points out that Shaw created the statue of Judgement (prog 7):






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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #175 on: 22 August, 2019, 08:14:22 pm »

Who can really say what the Bash Street Kids (i) are parodying here - Dredd, Star Trek or Starship Troopers? I'm not sure the artist knows either:



Thanks to Adrian Lee of Dale Jackson's 2000ad Tat & Chat Group for the find.

And thanks too to comics mercenary John Freeman for his latest update on UK newsstand comic sales. As usual, Tharg doesn't report figures, but Freeman notes that's an increasingly common position, since falling advertising revenue means the utility of letting everyone know how many (or how few) copies you shift is reduced:

Fascinating feature

Freeman's invaluable 12-year database of comic sales


(i) Bash Street Kids Summer Special #1, 1994

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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #176 on: 22 August, 2019, 11:34:23 pm »
Oh god, I must be middle-aged ... I've just spent 20 minutes analyzing a spreadsheet of retail sales and finding it fascinating
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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #177 on: 27 August, 2019, 11:01:59 pm »



Prog 762, December 1991. Series 3 of Alexei Sayle's Stuff had just finished a few weeks previously. Thanks to Dave Campbell of that awful Megaverse group, who came up trumps with the link:


https://youtu.be/olTKyKidpJM




The court artist appears to have encountered Jim Baikie's Judge Dredd, judging by that eagle detail. While we're doing this, here's recently unearthed clips of 2000ad on the BBC's Artifax (i) (1992) and The Money Programme (ii) (1985).

And, just to get every odd clip I can think of in one place, here's Steve Green's find of Judge Dredd arresting Danny John Jules at the end of the Tongue-Tied video.


(i) Featuring the Nerve Centre (Clarendon House variant) and three Thargs (Bishop, Burton and McKenzie)

(ii) Nerve Centre (King's Reach Tower) at 37 seconds, featuring MacManus, Geller & Church at surprisingly close quarters

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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #178 on: 28 August, 2019, 01:07:12 am »
David Bishop looks approximately five years old in that clip.  I was trying to figure out why two school children were interviewing each other and when the grown ups were going to arrive.

I now forgive all Thargs past and present for any prog-related problems they were having during their forced child labor and/or unpaid internships.
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Re: Thrillpower Overload: the missing chapters
« Reply #179 on: 28 August, 2019, 01:27:04 am »
If anyone's curious about the also-mentioned chocolate bar advert...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZH1IZ6dgQY