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Zenith returns in Prog 2050!

Started by robert_ellis, 13 September, 2017, 06:53:38 PM

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Frank

Quote from: Frank on 19 September, 2017, 10:01:33 PM
I agree that something's gone from (Yeowell's) art by Phase IV, but I blame that on having to alter his style for The Invisibles.

Nobody google that to make sure the chronology checks out. Trust me, it's fine.



Arkwright99

Quote from: Frank on 19 September, 2017, 10:29:46 PM
Quote from: Frank on 19 September, 2017, 10:01:33 PM
I agree that something's gone from (Yeowell's) art by Phase IV, but I blame that on having to alter his style for The Invisibles.

Nobody google that to make sure the chronology checks out. Trust me, it's fine.
There's a lot to like in Yeowell's art, even if Phase III is the *ahem* zenith of his career but I confess I never got on with Steve's work in 'The Red Seas'; it was too 'open', had too much white space, and whenever I looked at it the lines just slid off the page. Like the bottom four panels in the page below, I find my eye doesn't know where to focus and I lose the sense of narrative:

Doubtless it's just me but I feel had 'The Red Seas' been a coloured strip, a la Phase IV, I would have enjoyed it more.  :-\

But I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't like the recent Milligan/Dayglo 'Bad Company' strip. Some thing's are better left in the drawer.  :(
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Dash Decent

Quote from: Frank on 19 September, 2017, 07:41:04 PM
Good creators can produce a great story about a dud character, but the reverse is never true.

Dud characters can never produce a great story about good creators?  I'd have to agree!
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Satanist

Quote from: Dash Decent on 20 September, 2017, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: Frank on 19 September, 2017, 07:41:04 PM
Good creators can produce a great story about a dud character, but the reverse is never true.

Dud characters can never produce a great story about good creators?  I'd have to agree!

Bad creators can produce a terrible story about a great character - see Robohunter  ;)
Hmm, just pretend I wrote something witty eh?

Frank

Quote from: Frank on 18 September, 2017, 08:53:09 PM
We're talking as if Tharg's announced a new 24 part epic, but he might just want a new strip to bung in the back of another book repackaging the old material.

Not even that!

Michael Molcher ends the latest Thrillcast by asking Yeowell if he's read the piece Matt Smith has written for prog 2050. It sounds like Yeowell may only have provided a generic illustration for a text feature, which would explain why Zenith doesn't appear in the list of strips returning next issue.



JLC

Quote from: Frank on 20 September, 2017, 05:32:13 PM
Quote from: Frank on 18 September, 2017, 08:53:09 PM
We're talking as if Tharg's announced a new 24 part epic, but he might just want a new strip to bung in the back of another book repackaging the old material.

Not even that!

Michael Molcher ends the latest Thrillcast by asking Yeowell if he's read the piece Matt Smith has written for prog 2050. It sounds like Yeowell may only have provided a generic illustration for a text feature, which would explain why Zenith doesn't appear in the list of strips returning next issue.
Oh, really? Damn.

Jim_Campbell

Quote from: JLC on 20 September, 2017, 05:52:55 PM
Oh, really? Damn.

I'm slightly stunned that the prog's line-up conspicuously didn't list Zenith as a strip and yet fans have worked themselves up into a frenzy over a new series, or even a one-off, when it was really quite obvious that wasn't what was happening...
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Dandontdare

Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 20 September, 2017, 06:27:58 PM
Quote from: JLC on 20 September, 2017, 05:52:55 PM
Oh, really? Damn.

I'm slightly stunned that the prog's line-up conspicuously didn't list Zenith as a strip and yet fans have worked themselves up into a frenzy over a new series, or even a one-off, when it was really quite obvious that wasn't what was happening...

Agreed, but that's the fault of a certain PR droid who wasn't averse to giving that impression in the Thrill-mail

Dandontdare

Quote from: Dandontdare on 20 September, 2017, 08:13:25 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 20 September, 2017, 06:27:58 PM
Quote from: JLC on 20 September, 2017, 05:52:55 PM
Oh, really? Damn.

I'm slightly stunned that the prog's line-up conspicuously didn't list Zenith as a strip and yet fans have worked themselves up into a frenzy over a new series, or even a one-off, when it was really quite obvious that wasn't what was happening...

Agreed, but that's the fault of a certain PR droid who wasn't averse to giving that impression in the Thrill-mail. cf the gay Dredd "controversy - all publicity is good publicity (not)

Dandontdare

bollocks,meant to edit rather than quote myself but that function seems to come and go 'randomly'

Hawkmumbler

Quote from: Dandontdare on 20 September, 2017, 08:15:27 PM
bollocks,meant to edit rather than quote myself but that function seems to come and go 'randomly'
Ready a Kook Cube, Dan's talking to himself again...

TordelBack

Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 20 September, 2017, 06:27:58 PM
I'm slightly stunned...  [that] ...fans have worked themselves up into a frenzy over a new series, or even a one-off, when it was really quite obvious that wasn't what was happening...

Very slightly, one imagines.

JLC

Quote from: Dandontdare on 20 September, 2017, 08:13:25 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 20 September, 2017, 06:27:58 PM
Quote from: JLC on 20 September, 2017, 05:52:55 PM
Oh, really? Damn.

I'm slightly stunned that the prog's line-up conspicuously didn't list Zenith as a strip and yet fans have worked themselves up into a frenzy over a new series, or even a one-off, when it was really quite obvious that wasn't what was happening...

Agreed, but that's the fault of a certain PR droid who wasn't averse to giving that impression in the Thrill-mail
Exactly.

pauljholden

Quote from: Dandontdare on 20 September, 2017, 08:13:25 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 20 September, 2017, 06:27:58 PM
Quote from: JLC on 20 September, 2017, 05:52:55 PM
Oh, really? Damn.

I'm slightly stunned that the prog's line-up conspicuously didn't list Zenith as a strip and yet fans have worked themselves up into a frenzy over a new series, or even a one-off, when it was really quite obvious that wasn't what was happening...

Agreed, but that's the fault of a certain PR droid who wasn't averse to giving that impression in the Thrill-mail

Couple of things:

1) If you're talking about Molcher, it's unlikely he saw that particular thrill mail.
2) ISN'T THE JOB OF PR TO GET YOU EXCITED ABOUT SOMETHING?

I'm with Jim, pretty clear if you read the tea leaves* that there isn't a zenith strip in that prog, but what would you have the advert lead with? "Look at this cool picture of zenith, no before you all go off half-cocked, there isn't a zenith revival coming or anything..."

(*By which I mean, just look at the full description)

-pj

TordelBack

Well I haven't felt so betrayed since we were lead to believe that Dredd was gay, or dead, or filmed beating someone to death; I forget which one - but the outrage never fades!