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007: No time to die
« on: 04 December, 2019, 11:25:17 pm »
So the title comes from a James Bond film title generator and they seem to be saddled with making this a sequel to one of, if not, the poorest Craig Bonds.

https://youtu.be/wzubcjYeTVQ

But it does look smart and sexy with a great cast and some stupid stunts (which you gotta assume they did for reals). And top marks for the final image referencing the gun barrel that opens Bond movies.
« Last Edit: 04 December, 2019, 11:29:24 pm by Tiplodocus »
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #1 on: 05 December, 2019, 02:03:28 am »
There’s not been a Craig Bond film that I haven’t loved, even if one or two of them have featured massive plot nonsense holes. Let’s face it, he’s got the role down to a tee, half of Britain’s best actors will turn up at some point, the stunts will take your breath away... what’s not to like? It’s BOND.
Leave your disbelief* at the door and enjoy yourself. They’re always a hoot.

Oddly enough, it’s Skyfall, one of the best received ones, that I found most insufferable. Not a bloody thing about that film made sense.
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #2 on: 05 December, 2019, 02:13:32 am »
The Craig Bond films for gradually has decreased in quality.  I just had a big dislike in Skyfall. The trailer looks good

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #3 on: 05 December, 2019, 06:01:45 am »
How many DB5s does he own?

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #4 on: 05 December, 2019, 08:09:45 am »
I think its been a steady downhill decline in quality since Martin Campbell rebooted the series with Casino Royale, which is a great movie.

Hope they do something radical with the casting, or the direction for next one. Would have loved to have seen what Danny Boyle would have done with the series, and a shame that he decided he couldn't continue the project.

Trailer looks great, and hopefully the movie gives Daniel Craig the send-off he deserves.

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #5 on: 05 December, 2019, 08:55:39 am »
Love the trailer.

I find the Craig Bonds a massive mixed mag (I'm the only person alive who loves QoS) - both Skyfall and Spectre are far too long, and have some great bits in there, but Spectre especially made it quite clear the makers don't really know what to do.

I wonder what will become of the franchise now Craig's left?


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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #6 on: 05 December, 2019, 09:20:43 am »
General agreement. I love Casino Royale, it's probably my favourite Bond film. Quantum was okay, albeit a disappointment after the previous. Everything since then has disagreed with me, although I've never stopped loving Daniel Craig's take on the character. As long as the new one gets better-than-average reviews, I'll be there.

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #7 on: 05 December, 2019, 09:49:26 am »
Mrs IP and I both really loved Casino Royale. It felt like a fresh, modern take on Bond – one that showed it could make a proper fight of it in an era of Bournes and similar. Quantum felt odd – like a massively extended epilogue. It meandered and didn’t stick in my mind. I couldn’t even tell you what it was about now. It’s probably at that point that the people behind Bond massively freaked out and reverted to type.

Skyfall, as regular forumites know, is a film I regard as a vicious insulting travesty of a production. I’ve never walked out of a film. I very nearly did with this one. Mrs IP and I were appalled by what we’d watched, and conversations from other movie-goers on the night were along similar lines. It’s vanishingly rare I ever write about film, but for this I made an exception. I’ve no idea if Spectre continued the rampant awfulness at the heart of Skyfall or not, but the result is that I… just don’t care anymore.

To which people might, rightly, say why bother commenting then? But for me, this entire run represents a horribly missed opportunity to modernise a franchise and make it relevant. Instead, it’s turned into something that was little above a blacky satirised sketch. Still, given the production nightmares that these films have faced, perhaps Bond will rest for a while now, while someone can figure out how to unstick Purvis and Wade (seriously, what blackmail material do they have on Wilson and Broccoli?), and properly reimagine the series for the modern day. Or, you know, just revert to type again with Daniel Craig’s successor.

Finally, a BBC article from earlier this year is just astonishing:

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At the launch, producer Barbara Broccoli said Bond's attitudes to women would move with the times. "The Me Too movement has had a huge impact - rightfully, thankfully - on society, and these films should reflect that, as everything we do should," she said.

It shouldn’t take the Me Too movement for someone at Bond Films HQ to think: “You know, perhaps he shouldn’t basically rape a sex trafficking victim while she’s in the shower.” I can only hope whatever Waller-Bridge did had serious impact, and wasn’t just tidying up the edges.

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #8 on: 05 December, 2019, 02:34:12 pm »
The main problem for me with Craig’s Bond movies is that it never felt like Bond movies. They where trying to compete with the Bourne movies and never try to give us a Bond movie. I always liked how the old Bond movies reminded you that you are indeed watching a Bond movie by using the music at the right times.

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #9 on: 05 December, 2019, 02:44:50 pm »
Finally The Sisters of Mercy can do a Bond theme.
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #10 on: 05 December, 2019, 04:14:01 pm »
General agreement. I love Casino Royale, it's probably my favourite Bond film. Quantum was okay, albeit a disappointment after the previous. Everything since then has disagreed with me, although I've never stopped loving Daniel Craig's take on the character.

This ^^^ for me, Craig has brought some intelligence to the role of a state sanctioned killer, but the choices and use of muzak has turned me off the entire series....
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #11 on: 05 December, 2019, 04:15:20 pm »
Having said that enjoyed the trailer  :-[
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #12 on: 05 December, 2019, 06:36:14 pm »
(I'm the only person alive who loves QoS)

You're not. I'll easily take it over Spectre and Skyfall any day of the week. I like all the things everyone else hates about it: that it's a smaller movie, essentially an epilogue to CR, and I love that Bond is a completely heartless fucker in it, as he's supposed to be.
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #13 on: 05 December, 2019, 08:19:57 pm »
QoS is my favourite of the Craig Bonds. I like Casino Royale too, and while some bits of Spectre were okay in an acapella-covers-of-Bond's-Greatest-Hits way, Skyfall was an abomination.

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #14 on: 05 December, 2019, 09:19:21 pm »
The main problem for me with Craig’s Bond movies is that it never felt like Bond movies. They where trying to compete with the Bourne movies and never try to give us a Bond movie. I always liked how the old Bond movies reminded you that you are indeed watching a Bond movie by using the music at the right times.

This. A thousand times, this. Casino Royale was a good film but the rest? Nope. They've been disappointing.
I'll go see it but I'll have the same mindframe as all those Star Wars fans going to see the finale knowing they've hated the last one. I'm just a glutton for punishment.
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