Out-of-body experiences

[rc]

One must be assertive in one's beliefs, or they will hold no water in argument.

Imagine if you knew everything? It doesn't bear thinking about!

[Woolly]

The only thing im absolutely sure of in regards to life and knowledge, is that i dont really know that much.
Half of what we as a race know is wrong anyway (flying bumblebees anyone?), and we cant truly trust anything told to us by the government.

The point im making is that we cannot prove or disprove any notions of out of body experiences, ghosts, reincarnation etc, and the best/only solution is to (cheese alert!) follow your heart and gut instinct.
Ive had one or two strange experiences that i know definately happened but i cant explain how.
Doesnt mean they didnt happen, just means the experiences cant be explained yet.

Sorry, its early in the day and im babbling like a fool!
I'll post again when im awake!

Wul

[Priv8eye]

I truely believe that the world is not as simply black and white, and easily compartmentalised as some on this post would seem to suggest.  As Dudley says, weird shit happens and we are often at a loss to explain how.  Just because there is no scientific explanation for something doesn't mean it doesn't happen.  It could be that our perception of it is wrong and one day we will explain it all scientifically.

After all, hundreds of years ago there were lots of *wrong* scientific explanations for things that at the time they just did not understand properly, or did not have the technology to explore.

And yes, I have had experiance with ghosts (or whatever they may be) and some other weird shit.

I refuse to close my mind to this stuff and debunk it as crass.  It may not be what people say it is but there has to be some explanation that eventually may be provable.

[Matt Timson]

No Blackblood- that's not what I'm saying.  I'm not even saying that we didn't go to the Moon.  All I'm saying is that people in general- myself included- tend to believe whatever's fed to them if it seems to make sense.  Why would the average person bother to question it?

I'm not suggesting for one minute that we *are* being lied to- just that most people wouldn't notice anyway.  Your own comment illustrates exactly what I'm trying to say: you *do* have to put some measure of trust in what you're told by others.  Most people do- me included.

In the case of the Moon landings (which is probably the best example I can think of), I'm happy to believe that they took place, but I wouldn't be too surprised to find that they'd been faked either.

Cheers.

[Matt Timson]

"Imagine if you knew everything? It doesn't bear thinking about!"


Don't worry- I can't see that being a *big* problem for you.

[Dudley]

Eyebrows in "sarcastic" shocker?  Surely not?

[Mr C]

Universe: Big massive contains everything.

Human: Small bag of water sensing the universe only five ways and stuck on a small bit of rock.

Conclusion: Keeping an open mind is the only way to learn anything. Human experience is limited enough as it is without applying mental blinkers to ourselves, stopping us from enjoying what there is to sense.

RC- What is your life like? Is it exciting or dull? Just wondering becasue in my experience, people with dull lives keep the blikers on as opposed to those with interesting lives who tend to have open minds, hence their lives being interesting IMHO.

[Matt Timson]

I'm afraid so.

It must be a bit like deja vu for you, Dud!  Of course, you actually managed to redeem yourself pretty quickly...

;)

[Dudley]

Accch, since you agreed with me so wholeheartedly last week I've decided you're a big softy at your gorilla core.

[Matt Timson]

Well, you know how it is.  I enjoy hearing what other people think- and it's a bonus if you think the same way about any given subject.

That said, a difference in opinion should be interesting and not irritating- but I guess that's all down to the delivery and social skills of the person you're talking to.

Matt

[rc]

RC- What is your life like? Is it exciting or dull? Just wondering becasue in my experience, people with dull lives keep the blikers on as opposed to those with interesting lives who tend to have open minds, hence their lives being interesting IMHO.

Tut tut tut - this is the problem with Misters C and Eyelashes; one can sit all wide-eyed in front of a keyboard gleaning info from the net and "knowing" new things all the time, but in MY experience those unwilling to denounce anything and who accept any ridiculous conspiracy theory as possible and/or probable are the ones with closed minds.

The selection process is how one uses one's brain constructively; concentrating on the feasable yet willing to learn more about new possibilities should the initial spark appear
logical.

Trying to stretch logic and common sense to such far away and abstract areas which may well be achieved and understood in the future may be lots of fun, but only certain science fiction writers [i.e. make believe] and scientists [i.e. researchers] are going to be taken seriously
with such matters.

To boast about being open minded and "not dull" is a piece of piss anyone can do - I suspect the everyday reality of certain lives may tell a different story, however.

[Mr C]

I don't believe in every single thing that happens to drop out of Fortean Times thank you, I just recognize the fact that science hasn't explained everything there is to be explained yet. Surely you don't believe that there aren't anymore possibilities, that science has come to the end of the road and so must stop questing for the facts?

Interesting how you didn't answer my uestion either.

[Dudley]

GENERAL APPEAL

Can we stop all this stuff about "dull lives" before it really gets out of hand?

Everyone'll be calling everyone else "sad" next.  

Everyone else on this message-board for comic-reading adults, that is.

...Dudley


PS: My life is extremely dull, as I was telling my freefall sharpshooting instructor only the other day.

[Slippery PD]

Dudley in appeasement shock........  Is this the same man who took on keane

Yer Slips

[Dudley]

Just trying to stop it getting personal, Slips, you sheep-abusing fool.