Details in this Variety article. (https://variety.com/2024/film/global/aneurin-barnard-hayley-atwell-jack-lowden-duncan-jones-rogue-trooper-1235889907/?fbclid=IwAR36YaPV9SzW_72j8928q8kfUHXPHp0xVRveZ3qZ79zIy0LgEA-2PvIuM2U)
Well this is going to set the board alight!
Did I miss something or is this the first time we've been told this is going to be animated?
Exciting that this one has sprung back to life.
Awesome news I cannot wait.
Absolutely brilliant
Going animated is probably a wise decision and a "big" budget movie was probably always out with the financial reach of rebellion.
The interesting part will be what platform it's going to be released on first?
I hope I'm not reading too much into it but final few words from Jason are interesting
"...combines beautiful storytelling from our 2000AD Comic-book universe... We cannot wait for every to see these incredible stories brought to life onscreen."
🤞🏻🤞🏻 More projects to come (if Rogue is a success obviously)
First, I think this could be a really smart way to bring a 2000 AD property to life. Secondly – and I think this is important for the board – it's an important reminder that most people have NO IDEA what is happening with shows and movies that are in production. There had been lots of assumptions that Rogue Trooper the movie was dead. Now, we hear principal photography has wrapped.
I agree that going animated is a smart move. A year or two ago, I might have worried that it would hurt the film's chances at the box office, due to the fact that animated films are sometimes seen as lower status than live-action ones, but the Spider-verse movies have been huge hits. I believe the most recent one was one of the top 5 movies of last year at the box office.
I think IP makes an important point about media development. There's a hell of a lot that doesn't get reported which makes it hard to judge what is going on. Too much of what gets out is what the big companies can sell.
As for the development itself, aye, animated makes a hell of a lot more sense with the insanity of Nu-Earth. Not sure how to feel about the fact that they've gone with Friday over Rogue but that's more about the dogs-breakfast it descended into. War Machine was definitely a very interesting take on the concept. Hopefully that's the focus and then they'll cherry pick some of the best ideas from GFD's run as some of those would be amazing on the big (hell, even the little) screen.
Just have to wait and see ...
Rebellion have sent out an email now - well its landed in my inbox so this is all very exciting.
I can't imagine they wouldn't look at all the versions and take the best bits from each. Originally RT was quite hokey in many ways. Not sure that would fly in the movies. But the basic premise is strong. So take that, and merge it with some of the updated versions and some more modern sensibilities and you could end up with something interesting. Here's hoping.
(Duncan Jones also seems like someone who can work with limited means. Moon was fantastic.)
It doesn't say Friday, it just says 19. Maybe that's a reference to the Friday stories, but that doesn't mean it's going to resemble them in any way beyond that detail.
The image in the article looks closer to Rogue than Friday. Maybe wait for the trailer before worrying?
Well, having the rebellious clone called Rogue, the sharpshot called Gunnar, the quartermaster called Bagman and the one who ends up in the helmet called Helm might be a stretch on the big screen, so I'm not that unhappy if they call the lead character clone 19 instead.
Should point out it won't even be the first animated film that Jones has directed - World of Warcraft...
Now, what's the name of that giant tank in the teaser image?
Quote from: sheridan on 29 January, 2024, 04:35:01 PMNow, what's the name of that giant tank in the teaser image?
Hank.
https://downthetubes.net/rogue-trooper-principal-filming-wraps/#
Yup, very exciting and may it be the first of many!
This is a very interesting announcement. The movie seems to be totally unlike anything that's ever been made before. I can see why people might mention the Spider-Verse films, but they are family-orientated and cost an enormous amount of money to produce. Attempting to do a computer animated feature, aimed at adults, using video game tech, on a modest budget... it could be an act of era-defining brilliance, as long as the quality is there.
Oh, and I hope the allusion to Friday is a false alarm. Certainly the rest of the synopsis seems to be the classic Rogue arc. Duncan Jones would have to have very idiosyncratic tastes to want to use the rebooted version of the character. Even if he did, surely Rebellion wouldn't be crazy enough to go along with it....
Funny, I was gonna watch Duncan Jones' Source Code for the first time yesterday, but opted for Virgin Suicides which I'd also never seen.
Source code is about a soldier who wakes up in another mans body to do a mission.
Isn't that ..kind of.. similar to Rogue Trooper
Quote from: sheridan on 29 January, 2024, 04:35:01 PMNow, what's the name of that giant tank in the teaser image?
They were called Blackmares - from Clash in Doomsday Valley (prog 231).
I mean now we have the cast out there all I want this film to be is Philomena Cunk interviewing Rogue asking
"So you shot lots of Norts. That's just another word for blanks isn't it?"
Cunk on Cursed Earth would be good all around
Quote from: lordmockingbird on 29 January, 2024, 06:06:50 PMCunk on Cursed Earth would be good all around
Oh that is GOLD!
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 29 January, 2024, 02:39:59 PMWell this is going to set the board alight!
Did I miss something or is this the first time we've been told this is going to be animated?
Exciting that this one has sprung back to life.
Yes I always assumed it would be live action. Disappointed that this isn't going to be but interested to see what style they choose.
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 29 January, 2024, 05:57:16 PMI mean now we have the cast out there all I want this film to be is Philomena Cunk interviewing Rogue
And miss out on Matt Berry as a biochip...?
"This is Rogue — he's my best friend, he's my pal. He's my homeboy, my rotten soldier. He's my sweet cheese. My good-time boy." :)
Quote from: lordmockingbird on 29 January, 2024, 05:40:45 PMSource code is about a soldier who wakes up in another mans body to do a mission. Isn't that ..kind of.. similar to Rogue Trooper
The film is very different to that, but quite... 2000 AD in nature. To say anything further would spoil it. But I enjoyed that film a lot. I don't recall watching any more of his stuff (like Mute) after that though.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 January, 2024, 06:59:55 PMQuote from: Colin YNWA on 29 January, 2024, 05:57:16 PMI mean now we have the cast out there all I want this film to be is Philomena Cunk interviewing Rogue
And miss out on Matt Berry as a biochip...? "This is Rogue — he's my best friend, he's my pal. He's my homeboy, my rotten soldier. He's my sweet cheese. My good-time boy." :)
Ha!
Yes! Victory to Nordland! Any Live-Action would have busted the budget of even a large studio, so it is much wiser to go the animation route. The Unreal Engine looks realistic in its graphics, so this seems to be the right match for the subject matter.
Quote from: Jimmy Baker's Assistant on 29 January, 2024, 05:27:27 PMAttempting to do a computer animated feature, aimed at adults, using video game tech, on a modest budget... it could be an act of era-defining brilliance, as long as the quality is there.
Well, a Rogue Trooper movie is always going to have a more limited audience than a Spiderman movie, and the same thing applies whether the movie is live action or animated. But I don't think the Spider-verse movies are seen as lesser than the live action Spidey films in the same way that the animated DC movies are when compared to their live action counterparts.
As for the "aimed at adults" bit, I actually asked Duncan Jones on Twitter (as it then was) whether it was going to be aimed at an adult audience, or whether he was going to keep it 12A in order to give it broader appeal. He replied that he honestly hadn't thought about it. He was leaning towards a more adult approach, but was aware that Dredd's 18 certificate had hurt it commercially.
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Well, a Rogue Trooper movie is always going to have a more limited audience than a Spiderman movie, and the same thing applies whether the movie is live action or animated. But I don't think the Spider-verse movies are seen as lesser than the live action Spidey films in the same way that the animated DC movies are when compared to their live action counterparts.
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I preferred a lot of Batman animated to the Batman live action ((Batman & Robin 😡) and really liked Batman Beyond (or "of the future" in the UK)
Time to cash in the crypto and hoover up those Prog 228's in CGC 9.8 condition.
Or at least wipe the mildew from the spine of your 1991 annual before flogging it on Ebay...
Have to admit,exciting news.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 January, 2024, 06:59:55 PMQuote from: Colin YNWA on 29 January, 2024, 05:57:16 PMI mean now we have the cast out there all I want this film to be is Philomena Cunk interviewing Rogue
And miss out on Matt Berry as a biochip...? "This is Rogue — he's my best friend, he's my pal. He's my homeboy, my rotten soldier. He's my sweet cheese. My good-time boy." :)
He's not a biochip, well not one of the main ones. Jack Lowden is GUNNAR. Daryl McCormack is HELM. Reece Shearsmith is Bagman.
Quote from: Trooper McFad on 29 January, 2024, 09:24:47 PMI preferred a lot of Batman animated to the Batman live action ((Batman & Robin 😡) and really liked Batman Beyond (or "of the future" in the UK)
I didn't mean lesser in quality, I loved
Mask of the Phantasm as much as anybody, but the audience was more niche, and none of these movies were box office smashes like
Across the Spider-verse. Most of them never even got a theatrical release.
Quote from: nxylas on 29 January, 2024, 09:46:56 PMQuote from: Trooper McFad on 29 January, 2024, 09:24:47 PMI preferred a lot of Batman animated to the Batman live action ((Batman & Robin 😡) and really liked Batman Beyond (or "of the future" in the UK)
I didn't mean lesser in quality, I loved Mask of the Phantasm as much as anybody, but the audience was more niche, and none of these movies were box office smashes like Across the Spider-verse. Most of them never even got a theatrical release.
I doubt that Rogue Trooper will.
Quote from: nxylas on 29 January, 2024, 08:52:34 PMI don't think the Spider-verse movies are seen as lesser than the live action Spidey films
Indeed - for a segment of the generation coming up, the animated Spider-verse movies are the superior beast.
Exciting news! I'll be looking out for the five minute Dash Decent serial before the main flick.
Thanks for redirecting me here, Richard! I'll just repeat what I said in my original, locked thread - Dave Gibbons now has two blank-eyed, blue-skinned, bare-chested baldies on the big screen. How many have you?
Seriously, though, really looking forward to this. I think the choice of calling him 19 is a good one - Rogue only makes sense as a nickname picked up after going rogue, as in the IDW comics.
Also looking forward to Rogue 2: Mercy Heights!
Quote from: judgeurko on 29 January, 2024, 09:37:00 PMHe's not a biochip, well not one of the main ones. Jack Lowden is GUNNAR. Daryl McCormack is HELM. Reece Shearsmith is Bagman.
Yes, I know that. In much the same way that I'm
fairly certain that Colin doesn't think that Diane Morgan will be reprising her role as Philomena Cunk in this movie, I thought it might be mildly amusing to imagine Matt Berry delivering one of the roles in full Lazlo-from-What-We-Do-In-The-Shadows mode*.
Maybe he could be the Traitor General:
"The most devious bastard on Nuuuuuuuuuuuu-Earth..."*AKA: just Matt Berry, basically.
Quote from: judgeurko on 29 January, 2024, 09:59:31 PMQuote from: nxylas on 29 January, 2024, 09:46:56 PMQuote from: Trooper McFad on 29 January, 2024, 09:24:47 PMI preferred a lot of Batman animated to the Batman live action ((Batman & Robin 😡) and really liked Batman Beyond (or "of the future" in the UK)
I didn't mean lesser in quality, I loved Mask of the Phantasm as much as anybody, but the audience was more niche, and none of these movies were box office smashes like Across the Spider-verse. Most of them never even got a theatrical release.
I doubt that Rogue Trooper will.
Rebellion's official Twitter post does say 'the big screen' so fingers crossed.
https://x.com/Rebellion/status/1751969699406000465?s=20
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 30 January, 2024, 07:05:03 AM...I'm fairly certain that Colin doesn't think that Diane Morgan will be reprising her role as Philomena Cunk in this movie...
Errr well, no I REALLY want that to happen... I mean really...
...both of them in fact. I'm looking forward to this movie more and more.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 30 January, 2024, 07:05:03 AMMaybe he could be the Traitor General: "The most devious bastard on Nuuuuuuuuuuuu-Earth..."
:lol:
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 30 January, 2024, 07:05:03 AMI thought it might be mildly amusing to imagine Matt Berry delivering one of the roles in full Lazlo-from-What-We-Do-In-The-Shadows mode
Why not go the whole hog and have Kayvan Novak and Natasia Demetriou as the other chips?
With Mark Proksch as the Traitor General
Quote from: norton canes on 30 January, 2024, 10:25:59 AMWhy not go the whole hog and have Kayvan Novak and Natasia Demetriou as the other chips?
"HELM IS A BIG BLOODY STUPID HAT WITH A BIG BLOODY STUPID CURSE ON HIM, AND EVERY TIME YOU WEAR HIM SOMETHING BLOODY STUPID TERRIBLE HAPPENS!"QuoteWith Mark Proksch as the Traitor General
Genius. Has anyone got Duncan Jones' email address...?
The idea of rigging the animation in a gamming engine is either going to be a spectacular feat of directorial risk taking or it'll fall painfully on its face.
Did anyone actually watch Ready Player One? If you haven't, don't, if you have, you already know what I'm thinking.
I don't; I saw Ready Player One and thought it was great. If Rogue looks like that I'll be happy.
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 30 January, 2024, 01:19:45 PMThe idea of rigging the animation in a gamming engine is either going to be a spectacular feat of directorial risk taking or it'll fall painfully on its face.
Over on one of the Facebook discussions about the movie news, Steve Green linked to this demo (https://youtu.be/bIGnx2jvrbg?feature=shared) of the MetaHuman character animation system they're using (per the original
Variety article). I have to say — to my untrained eye, the uncanny valley seems to be dwindling to the point where it's barely even an uncanny culvert these days.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 30 January, 2024, 06:53:59 AMI think the choice of calling him 19 is a good one
"I was only 19" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gmgwx77osw)
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 30 January, 2024, 01:19:45 PMThe idea of rigging the animation in a gamming engine is either going to be a spectacular feat of directorial risk taking or it'll fall painfully on its face.
I've managed to hack Duncan Jones' phone and get hold of an early screenshot. Things are looking good.
(https://retroarcadia.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/rogue-trooper-180902-063239-1.jpg?w=816)
Ha! To be fair, the one objectively quite good and reasonably authentic 2000 AD game from the 8-bit era. Almost everything else was awful, and the one game I remember that wasn't – Nemesis – had almost nothing to do with the source material.
I recall Sláine being particularly baffling. How someone took something that should probably have ended up like Barbarian II or Fighting Warrior and turned it into a game where you had to catch Sláine's thoughts is beyond me.
Aye, that Sláine game was very silly. It could even have worked as a type-in adventure game with lots of digitised graphics - Diceman proved that possible - but this was just daft.
Considering 16-bit throwbacks are still rather in vogue, if Rebellion where do effectively remake Golden Axe II with Slaine I think it could turn out rather neat.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 30 January, 2024, 07:05:03 AM...I thought it might be mildly amusing to imagine Matt Berry delivering one of the roles in full Lazlo-from-What-We-Do-In-The-Shadows mode*.
For the love of Toast...
Fire the nuculear weapons!!
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 30 January, 2024, 04:14:11 PMConsidering 16-bit throwbacks are still rather in vogue, if Rebellion where do effectively remake Golden Axe II with Slaine I think it could turn out rather neat.
Just in case anyone is unaware - Golden Axe is perhaps the only game where you get to be a dwarf riding a ... well, whatever that thing is:
(https://www.nuketown.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/golden-axe-battling-giants.jpg)
Rogue Trooper won't be as cool as that, fer sure.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 30 January, 2024, 07:05:03 AMQuote from: judgeurko on 29 January, 2024, 09:37:00 PMHe's not a biochip, well not one of the main ones. Jack Lowden is GUNNAR. Daryl McCormack is HELM. Reece Shearsmith is Bagman.
Yes, I know that. In much the same way that I'm fairly certain that Colin doesn't think that Diane Morgan will be reprising her role as Philomena Cunk in this movie, I thought it might be mildly amusing to imagine Matt Berry delivering one of the roles in full Lazlo-from-What-We-Do-In-The-Shadows mode*.
Maybe he could be the Traitor General: "The most devious bastard on Nuuuuuuuuuuuu-Earth..."
*AKA: just Matt Berry, basically.
OK
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 30 January, 2024, 02:47:53 PMQuote from: Hawkmumbler on 30 January, 2024, 01:19:45 PMThe idea of rigging the animation in a gamming engine is either going to be a spectacular feat of directorial risk taking or it'll fall painfully on its face.
I've managed to hack Duncan Jones' phone and get hold of an early screenshot. Things are looking good.
(https://retroarcadia.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/rogue-trooper-180902-063239-1.jpg?w=816)
(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/UcRv2Y4CABxs5BCaYp2tJ7.jpg)
Quote from: Funt Solo [R] on 30 January, 2024, 07:15:47 PMGolden Axe is perhaps the only game where you get to be a dwarf riding a ... well, whatever that thing is:
haha :lol: That's Chicken Leg!!!
https://goldenaxe.fandom.com/wiki/Chicken_Leg
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 30 January, 2024, 02:47:53 PMhack Duncan Jones' phone
Been spamming his business email for months with my storyboards, fan-fiction and scene ideas.
Yet to get a reply but I'm still confident :-[
STAK! Naughty Norty genetik engineers have come up with bio-wire 2.0, watch where you step.
(https://i.postimg.cc/t4dqH35c/RT-resize.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gxJFV61y)
::)
Silliness aside.
Really is quite good news and very unexpected for the announcement to be so far along the production schedule.
Not sure how I feel about the CGI cartoon route, but I guess that means bringing all of Rogue's World to a movie screen should be doable.
Couldn't imagine the budget if it was all real actors and practical effects, even if mostly in front of green screen.
ZARJAZ!
Quote from: lincnash on 30 January, 2024, 08:59:02 PMBeen spamming his business email for months with my storyboards, fan-fiction and scene ideas.
Yet to get a reply but I'm still confident :-[
I'm under the impression that unsolicited work sent to creative businesses (e.g. game ideas to a game development company) are not accepted, for legal reasons. Unless you are going through an agent (or equivalent business entity).
Quote from: Funt Solo [R] on 30 January, 2024, 07:15:47 PMQuote from: Hawkmumbler on 30 January, 2024, 04:14:11 PMConsidering 16-bit throwbacks are still rather in vogue, if Rebellion where do effectively remake Golden Axe II with Slaine I think it could turn out rather neat.
Just in case anyone is unaware - Golden Axe is perhaps the only game where you get to be a dwarf riding a ... well, whatever that thing is:
(https://www.nuketown.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/golden-axe-battling-giants.jpg)
Rogue Trooper won't be as cool as that, fer sure.
That was a freaking brilliant game, which ate a lot of my ten pees. Giant Karnovs in chainmail knickers are always cool.
Does anyone remember the Kurt Russell movie "Soldier"? My sketchy memory of it was that it had a very Rogue flavour to it with some clone lad bred for war ends up dumped by his army, is slightly becalmed with some kind of peaceful settlement, but ultimately has to get his fighting mojo back Cinnabar style for some crazy shoot-out by the end. The chunks of it I saw certainly felt Roguey to my mind. Maybe I'm mis-remembering?
I'm curious about the format of this new Rogue film. They say that principal photography is complete, but also that they are starting the Unreal Engine process now. Does the principal photography refer to motion capture, or green screen work? Some of the fan created work through Unreal Engine that you can find on youtube are hugely impressive, so I'm thinking that the professionals are going to make it look pretty amazing either way.
Quote from: sixmo on 30 January, 2024, 11:08:02 PMDoes the principal photography refer to motion capture, or green screen work?
I think it's all the mo-cap (and possibly some scanning of the actors, if my very limited grasp of the MetaHuman character animation is correct).
Quote from: Funt Solo [R] on 30 January, 2024, 07:15:47 PMJust in case anyone is unaware - Golden Axe is perhaps the only game where you get to be a dwarf riding a ... well, whatever that thing is:
< snip >
Rogue Trooper won't be as cool as that, fer sure.
Come on, Funt. That's just Wulf riding a mork. Or one of those dervish hellhound creatures that was after them in the Stickelgruber Grab.
Can I ask why this is down in the 'Film & TV' thread? This is major 2000AD news, we know it is actually happening, and yet again, like 2012 Dredd, threads started in 'News" get closed. Everyone looks in the main section, that's why people kept creating news threads about Dredd at the start when they didn't see anything about it where they naturally expect it to be.
This sub forum is the place I'd go to if I wanted to discuss Laverne & Shirley meets Hong Kong Phooey. Not an actual, known-to-be-in-production movie about a major 2000AD character.
I understand that Rebellion might want to do official stuff; well, there's an Announcements thread official communiques can be posted/quoted in, and the actual "NEWS" section of the website as opposed to the forum.
Forgive me for being dense, but why can the main forum have threads for e.g. "I see a guy making unofficial Dredd teatowels" but not this exciting, relevant and big news? It's like NASA sending people to Mars and reporting it on the inside back page of Exchange & Mart.
Also!
Rebellion, please discuss the film with Hiya or whoever so we can get a tie-in Rogue Trooper figure out of it. Plus, assuming he will look differnt in some ways from the comic, please ask them to make an original comic variant so faithful and aged Squaxx can see the fulfilment of a long-time desire.
Quote from: Dash Decent on 31 January, 2024, 12:26:01 AMForgive me for being dense, but why can the main forum have threads for e.g. "I see a guy making unofficial Dredd teatowels" but not this exciting, relevant and big news?
It's not that this thread
can't be in the main forum section, it's just that I put it here because it seemed logical to put it here. It wasn't an official announcement, I just happened to see the announcement on FB a few minutes after it was made, and popped the link on the forum because I thought other people might be as excited/intrigued as I was.
(I only browse the forum using the "Unread Posts" option, so this one jumps to the top whenever someone posts to it — it never crossed my mind to consider how it would appear to someone reading the forum a different way. If a mod wants to move it for that reason, fair enough.)
I use the Unread Posts page too.
There used to be a Recent Posts page which listed all topics in order of the latest post. This was extremely useful but disappeared (along with certain tags) during the last site upgrade. A few of us tried asking for it back but here we still are.
Anyway - I'm looking forward to this film with great anticipation. Fingers crossed that it'll make enough money for Rebellion to recover the Recent Posts page.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 31 January, 2024, 07:04:31 AMIt's not that this thread can't be in the main forum section, it's just that I put it here because it seemed logical to put it here.
My apologies Jim, I wasn't trying to pick on anyone about the choice. Coming in cold this morning and seeing a thread in the main section shut down and pointing to another section of the forum out in the weeds is identical to the experience I found here when Dredd was in the pipeline. I assumed there must be some rule the mods were enforcing again that I still didn't understand.
I hadn't considered the "Unread Posts" function. I go by the layout on the main page, which is:
2000AD < This seems to me the place for everything 2000AD, bar review-type discussions.
News <
General <
Announcements < I always look at these three.
(etc)
Spoilers < 2000AD-y reviews go here.
Prog <
Megazine <
Other Reviews < I sometimes look at these three.
General Chat < And therefore this is everything
not 2000AD.
Dredd film discussion <
Comics <
Movies & TV <
Shampoos of History <
(etc) < All this stuff is the weeds to me, and I rarely look here..
That said, I think I have proved in the Joe/Joseph and "Souther" stakes that I'm not the full quid, so my understanding of how the site is meant to be categorised is open to questioning. The Dredd film discussion is under "General Chat" too, which probably also proves I am totally mistaken -- though I am equally baffled by why it is in the General Chat section. If it's considered General, then 2000AD/General would be the place, I would have thought...
Just think of me as one of those stupid robots in predictable cod SF stories -
"Warning! Warning! Does not compute!
<fizzle fizzle fizzle>"
"Well, that got rid of him! Back to normal, the world is safe again."
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 31 January, 2024, 07:04:31 AMit never crossed my mind to consider how it would appear to someone reading the forum a different way.
Jim, the fault is mine.
I've used the 'Unread Posts' as my main way in to what's happening here since I landed I believe - arh remember when if you missed a day for whatever reason there was 3 pages of the stuff - this move news is in a small way returning us to that time! Its set the board on fire, which is aces.
I used 'Unread posts' even in the days of the fabled 'Active topics' and always wondered why more didn't. Its just so useful.
That said we're getting off track. That Rogue Trooper movie sure lookd fun. I really hope it finds its audience.
The official site - https://roguetrooper.com/ (https://roguetrooper.com/) - doesn't have much in the way of images, but I love that what it does have, Rogue & Hank the Blackmare tank, looks 100% original Rogue. It might change later as production progresses, but fingers crossed.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 January, 2024, 04:42:08 PMQuote from: sheridan on 29 January, 2024, 04:35:01 PMNow, what's the name of that giant tank in the teaser image?
Hank.
I am also hoping for a spin-off Thomas the Tank Engine-type series for kids, Hank the Tank.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 30 January, 2024, 11:16:05 PMI think it's all the mo-cap (and possibly some scanning of the actors, if my very limited grasp of the MetaHuman character animation is correct).
I'm going to take this as at least the possibility that I'm right about the moc-cap and scanning... :)
(https://i.imgur.com/PS0wcN3.jpg)
(Xwitter screencap thieved from John Burdis on the 77-2000AD FB group, because I don't do that Xwitter thing no more...)
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 31 January, 2024, 07:24:03 AMThere used to be a Recent Posts page which listed all topics in order of the latest post.
I still have the Recent Posts link (along with Unread Posts and Updated Topics) at the top of the page, just under the Main Menu link. Browsing using Safari on my iPhone. I always start with Recent Posts when I visit the forum! The only irritation is it only works in landscape orientation. I have to twizzle the phone 90 degrees before I can click on it. Really bizarre. I also have the link when viewing on my Mac.
And, er, good news on the Rogue Trooper film! Looking forward to it!
Is it wrong I'm more excited for the BTS mo-cap stuff to get released over the movie itself, and that really means something.
Watching mo-cap acting is some of the most fun you can have sober, comedy gold every time.
Quote from: norton canes on 30 January, 2024, 10:25:59 AMWith Mark Proksch as the Traitor General
Oh, Colin Robinson actually does look like the Traitor General now you say it (after the shuttle crash).
Quote from: Le Fink on 31 January, 2024, 09:14:34 AMQuote from: The Legendary Shark on 31 January, 2024, 07:24:03 AMThere used to be a Recent Posts page which listed all topics in order of the latest post.
I still have the Recent Posts link (along with Unread Posts and Updated Topics) at the top of the page, just under the Main Menu link. Browsing using Safari on my iPhone. I always start with Recent Posts when I visit the forum! The only irritation is it only works in landscape orientation. I have to twizzle the phone 90 degrees before I can click on it. Really bizarre. I also have the link when viewing on my Mac.
And, er, good news on the Rogue Trooper film! Looking forward to it!
Sorry, it was the
Active Topics page (as Colin correctly pointed out) which was so very, very useful. I'd love to get that back, but not as much as I love the prospect of a
RT film.
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 31 January, 2024, 07:24:03 AMI use the Unread Posts page too.
I really need to start doing that. I think I'm still living in the days when there was a Kev O'Neill Tharg at the top of the forum page, with an eye that followed the cursor wherever it went.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 31 January, 2024, 01:47:08 PMI really need to start doing that. I think I'm still living in the days when there was a Kev O'Neill Walker Tharg at the top of the forum page, with an eye that followed the cursor wherever it went.
Well feck me, you're right, of course. Twenty plus years on the forum and senility is finally kicking in. Kev Walker's scowly Tharg was possibly my favourite Tharg, too - an alien editor you wouldn't fuck with.
A little bit more here from the BBC. I can't quite work out whether Rogue will have a Welsh accent or not.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-68139233 (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-68139233)
Roath Trooper.
😄 If it was an Irish accent I'd be able to out-pun you.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 31 January, 2024, 04:32:31 PMA little bit more here from the BBC. I can't quite work out whether Rogue will have a Welsh accent or not.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-68139233 (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-68139233)
So instead of Nu-Earth, all the main action takes place in
Llanfairpwllgwyngyll (the town in Wales with the most letters in its name)? ;)
South Boston accent, Troupah
Quote from: paddykafka on 31 January, 2024, 05:25:50 PMQuote from: JayzusB.Christ on 31 January, 2024, 04:32:31 PMA little bit more here from the BBC. I can't quite work out whether Rogue will have a Welsh accent or not.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-68139233 (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-68139233)
So instead of Nu-Earth, all the main action takes place in Llanfairpwllgwyngyll (the town in Wales with the most letters in its name)? ;)
At least it'll take the focus off how they pronounce 'Souther'.
Character ideas for the upcoming Welsh Rogue Trooper epic: Captain Cardigan, a bio-chipped armoured vest - voiced by Max Boyce, who knows, because he was there. Lieutenant Llandovery, a bio-chipped Land Rover - voiced by Shirley Bassey, who has the chassis. Brigadier Brecon, a bio-chipped beacon - voiced by Tom Jones, because he's loud. Lieutenant Llanrhystud, a bio-chipped thing - voiced by Terry Jones as Pepperpot Woman.
"What is this desolate, environmentally ravaged hell-hole where the air itself burns your lungs...?!"
"Port Talbot."
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 31 January, 2024, 04:32:31 PMA little bit more here from the BBC. I can't quite work out whether Rogue will have a Welsh accent or not.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-68139233 (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-68139233)
Would that make Barry Island in Nort Wales?
Should we start referring to the director as Jones the Film?
QuoteHe is accompanied by three comrades-in-arms, previously killed in battle, whose minds have been uploaded into "bio-chips" and installed in various pieces of equipment - namely his helmet, rucksack and gun.
Just three, is it?
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 31 January, 2024, 05:58:34 PMQuote from: paddykafka on 31 January, 2024, 05:25:50 PMQuote from: JayzusB.Christ on 31 January, 2024, 04:32:31 PMA little bit more here from the BBC. I can't quite work out whether Rogue will have a Welsh accent or not.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-68139233 (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-68139233)
So instead of Nu-Earth, all the main action takes place in Llanfairpwllgwyngyll (the town in Wales with the most letters in its name)? ;)
At least it'll take the focus off how they pronounce 'Souther'.
A welsh Rogue Trooper? It's not unusual...
Duncan Jones presents "How Green was my Chemsuit". It's like a futuristic Zulu but with more singing, boyo, and the stereotypes turned up to 'Clickee Pentax' level. Being body robbers, Bland & Brass remain firmly English. Tidy!
The Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch Massacre.
I can't believe you're such a shower of racists. Fortunately I'm above saying things like 'Stak! There's a leek in my chemsuit!'
Nice bit of trolling by Duncan Jones Rogue will be Welsh
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-68139233?fbclid=IwAR0EC0zByze_uMI5wLxfoGHvcDbp19-FdetSs8-Qb7YkbDzr2Vr3U0Bm7Sg
Quote from: rogue69 on 01 February, 2024, 07:43:22 AMNice bit of trolling by Duncan Jones Rogue will be Welsh
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-68139233?fbclid=IwAR0EC0zByze_uMI5wLxfoGHvcDbp19-FdetSs8-Qb7YkbDzr2Vr3U0Bm7Sg
Oh that is quite fantastic!
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 31 January, 2024, 07:22:37 PMCharacter ideas for the upcoming Welsh Rogue Trooper epic: Captain Cardigan, a bio-chipped armoured vest - voiced by Max Boyce, who knows, because he was there. Lieutenant Llandovery, a bio-chipped Land Rover - voiced by Shirley Bassey, who has the chassis. Brigadier Brecon, a bio-chipped beacon - voiced by Tom Jones, because he's loud. Lieutenant Llanrhystud, a bio-chipped thing - voiced by Terry Jones as Pepperpot Woman.
And Ruth Madoc as Gwener Bluegenes. (I know it's the wrong strip but - "Hi-De-Hi-Ex!")
What's everyone's hope for the storyline?
We know they are going down the massacre and traitor route but as fans we know this could easily be put into at least 2 films if not 3. There's so many side missions to track the traitor down I really don't think a 1 and done film would do the story justice.
My hope is there's a decent first film but the traitor just gets away and leaves it open for films 2 & 3
I also don't want to see the traitor unless he's disfigured.
Finally I don't want anymore than 3 films if it follows the massacre/traitor arc.
But that's just my wishes
What's yours?
Quote from: Trooper McFad on 01 February, 2024, 08:28:27 AMI really don't think a 1 and done film would do the story justice.
They're going to stay true to the original — they'll keep churning out films until the franchise has completely run out of steam, then they'll do a gritty reboot, then they'll try and mash the gritty reboot into the original continuity until no one either knows or cares what the hell is going on...
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 01 February, 2024, 08:59:31 AMThey're going to stay true to the original — they'll keep churning out films until the franchise has completely run out of steam, then they'll do a gritty reboot, then they'll try and mash the gritty reboot into the original continuity until no one either knows or cares what the hell is going on...
:D
I'd like to see the traitor general escape too, although I'd be surprised (and pleased) if there's a sequel. The best ending for me is Rogue heading off into the Warzone like David Carridane in Kung Fu / The Littlest Hobo in search of a new general-hunting adventure.
And if its Welsh Rogue Trooper, I'm devastated we missed the chance to have Windsor Davies as Major Magnum.
I'll tap it into the open-goal...
Nu-Port
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 01 February, 2024, 08:59:31 AMQuote from: Trooper McFad on 01 February, 2024, 08:28:27 AMI really don't think a 1 and done film would do the story justice.
They're going to stay true to the original — they'll keep churning out films until the franchise has completely run out of steam, then they'll do a gritty reboot, then they'll try and mash the gritty reboot into the original continuity until no one either knows or cares what the hell is going on...
Nooooooo I don't relish a trip to Fort Neuro (or Horst)
Guessing it'll be a kind of greatest hits of the GF-D era stories - chem-tents and giant tanks to set the scene, flashback to the Quartz Massacre, some Brass and Bland, then perhaps onto Fort Neuro (or the British sector, at least) and possibly into the Ozarks before a climactic final reel on Milli-Com.
The Green, Green Gas of Home.
As for the film - it's not a well-known internationally famous franchise, so planning a three-film arc might not be the wisest of ideas. Concentrate on the best one-off they can - though perhaps leave it open for potential sequels - the TG dies, but it's in a flaming shuttle and we don't see the body, so disfigured TG can appear in the next film.
Personally I'd love to see Fort Neuro, so not sure how well it would translate - though I'm all on board for robo-runners!
I would like it to like the GFD Rogue either starting with the Quartz massacre and then Rogue helping Southers until he finds out about the Traitor General
I'd like it to be one-and-done. I'm fed up of so many franchises saying they're mapping out a trilogy. I mean, the news of 28 Years Later just landed and they're already talking about that being two or three films. Why? The first one was a great standalone. The second... wasn't. But it was self-contained. Just tell a story and wrap it up. If the world is interesting enough to continue with, tell a different story.
Rogue has lots of scope. So surely within 90–120 minutes, they can have a start, middle and end. That doesn't mean at the end everyone celebrating the end of the war. Rogue walking off into the hellish mists of Nu-Earth seems a fitting ending (obvs, as someone else inferred, to The Littlest Hobo theme tune). But I'd hate to see "come back in two years for the next episode that might not actually happen because it all depends on whether this one makes money".
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 01 February, 2024, 10:34:08 AMI'd like it to be one-and-done. I'm fed up of so many franchises saying they're mapping out a trilogy. I mean, the news of 28 Years Later just landed and they're already talking about that being two or three films. Why? The first one was a great standalone. The second... wasn't. But it was self-contained. Just tell a story and wrap it up. If the world is interesting enough to continue with, tell a different story.
Rogue has lots of scope. So surely within 90–120 minutes, they can have a start, middle and end. That doesn't mean at the end everyone celebrating the end of the war. Rogue walking off into the hellish mists of Nu-Earth seems a fitting ending (obvs, as someone else inferred, to The Littlest Hobo theme tune). But I'd hate to see "come back in two years for the next episode that might not actually happen because it all depends on whether this one makes money".
Hear hear. I'd like a proper ending to the movie.
Having said that, a TV series of several separate adventures of Rogue wandering Nu Earth would work well too. Standalone film followed by TV series please!
Quote from: Le Fink on 01 February, 2024, 11:26:18 AMHear hear. I'd like a proper ending to the movie.
Having said that, a TV series of several separate adventures of Rogue wandering Nu Earth would work well too. Standalone film followed by TV series please!
A type of "clone wars" series called Tales from Nu-Earth where you don't have to have Rogue in every episode
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 01 February, 2024, 10:34:08 AMI'd like it to be one-and-done.
Me too. The Rogue Trooper game was really good, but after a climactic final battle, the Traitor General gets away, and that really cuts the legs out from under it. No real resolution, just that disappointed feeling that we might be asked to retread it all again in a sequel.
I'd like the movie to tell the story of the Quartz Zone Massacre (in flashback) and the hunt for the TG, all the way through to Rogue knocking him off. Sure, have Rogue then say, "Now we can go back to Milli-com & get you all regened" as he slips out of sight in a chem fog, but don't leave the actual story that it's all about - who is the TG? Will Rogue catch him? - up in the air. There's plenty of stories to tell if the movie is successful enough to warrant a sequel.
Also, I hope they work to avoid the mistakes made with the 2012 Dredd. By 'mistakes', I mean the things that scuppered a sequel, which were basically all the things that limited their audience. Aim it for a more general - meaning bigger - audience. It doesn't have to be My Little Pony level vanilla, but keep all the swearing out of it ("Stak!" is fine), make sure the action isn't too gory, etc. The animation already addresses one issue, allowing the RT movie to have a huge scale and a more futuristic look than Dredd could muster.
Quote from: Barrington Boots on 01 February, 2024, 09:04:52 AMI'm devastated we missed the chance to have Windsor Davies as Major Magnum.
SHUT UP!
One and done for me too. There still could be a sequel - Cinnabar had nothing to do with the hunt for the Traitor General but was my favourite RT ever.
Windsor Davies as Major Magnam would have been perfect. Maybe Steve Coogan or Rob Brydon could do his voice for them.
"Rogue Trooper will return in...whatever the fuck all this is."
'gestures of Nu-Earth timeline'
Quote from: Hawkmumbler on 01 February, 2024, 01:58:05 PM"Rogue Trooper will return in...whatever the fuck all this is."
'gestures of Nu-Earth timeline'
Basically, the closer to The Golden Fox Rebellion the film is, the happier I'll be.
Maybe a Starship Troopers shape would work; creation, training, winning some initial test-battles with ease, some passing clues to a TG but nothing this film relies on, climax with the Quartz Massacre. (Rogue's personal journey being from a loner (maybe trained as such) to craving the company of his lost G.I. family.) Then it's all left neatly rounded and wide open. There's no need to rush into it.
Surviving cast members of It Ain't Half Hot, Mum as random clones before Quartz Zone drop.
Windsor Davies as Gunnar, Don Estelle as Helm and Melvyn Hayes as Bagman.
Donald Hewlett plays the Traitor General as and Michael Knowles is Rogue.
I have no skin in the Rogue Trooper game as I've not read any, but I used to be in the camp of "one-off films are better than TV or film series" but my views have changed over the last decade or so.
A standalone film never seems to be sufficient to tell a complex or detailed story without feeling rushed, incomplete, or just badly edited.
With an ongoing film series, sequels tend to feel like sloppy seconds or rush-to-capitalise fodder.
A mini series or long-term, well planned ongoing series can give a story the space it deserves and allows breaking a story up into manageable pieces (ie, "seasons").
I've been watching Andor and before that Obi-Wan Kenobi, and they are exactly a case in point. Much better for being short series of 1 or 2 seasons.
Does anyone else keep typing Rouge Trooper by mistake? Transposing Nu-Earth for downstairs in Boots.
Lets Knife, Lovely Boy!
<Shakin Stevens plays, drop begins>
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 01 February, 2024, 03:16:14 PMWindsor Davies as Gunnar, Don Estelle as Helm and Melvyn Hayes as Bagman.
Donald Hewlett plays the Traitor General as and Michael Knowles is Rogue.
Lovely!
"...with us around, you won't feel blue!"
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 01 February, 2024, 01:51:05 PMMaybe Steve Coogan and Rob Brydon...
as Mr Brass and Mr Bland in the live action version :lol:
Quote from: karlos on 01 February, 2024, 03:31:22 PM"...with us around, you won't feel blue!"
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Fine pair of shoulders Lad, show 'em off show 'em off.
and finally Esther...
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Mr La-De Da...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Land of smoke and carnage,
Mother of debris...
SHAAAADAAAAP!
*discord*
Quote from: Proudhuff on 01 February, 2024, 03:44:38 PMand finally Esther...
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Mr La-De Da...
Credit to Sterlacchini
If I recall, the opening montage of the movie Soldier, with Kurt Russell, gives massive Rogue Trooper vibes.
To bring this discussion back to an entirely more boring dimension, I was thinking about the problematic names and whether some tortured rationalisation might be found to keep them in the story.
It occurred to me that although every G.I. would be extensively trained, the G.I. Regiment as a whole might require some of them to have specialisms. So, how about a unit of deep-penetration soldiers, specialised in making lone forays deep inside enemy lines to sow confusion and doubt ahead of and around the main G.I. force, Rogue Squad - of which Rogue 19 is a member. Okay, that's pretty cool. A squad of specialist snipers and artillerymen might easily be called Gunner Squad, so Gunner 01 is also a good enough name. Helm and Bagman get to be a bit more of a stretch, Helm might have been a member of Helmsmen Squad, specialist pilots and drivers. Bagman, jeez, that's a tough one. Baggage Squad, specialising in logistics and systems? Bagpipe Squad, basically the G.I. Regiment's band? Bagatelle Squad, who specialise in soft furnishings? Nope, it ain't gonna work, is it? *sigh*
Okay, so Bagman ruins everything. Again.
Way to go, Bagman.
Bagman being a logistics specialist isn't a terrible idea. Maybe he's the dude that could get you anything - just don't ask too many questions!
Quotenoun: bagman; plural noun: bagmen
1.
INFORMAL•US
an agent who collects or distributes the proceeds of illicit activities.
Phil Silvers!
Maybe his job was to bag up the casualties.
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 01 February, 2024, 08:30:13 PMPhil Silvers!
Ali Bongo!
Sorry, are we just shouting out random names at this point?
Phil Silvers as Major Magnam, I can see some potential in.
Talking of Wales - that's where the true Britons survived the Anglo-Saxon-Danish invasions, yes? What I'm saying, I suppose, is that the Welsh should claim independence (Wexit), commit to a long and glorious conflict and then deport the English to the beautiful holiday resort nation of Rwanda.
Which is probably the plot of the new Rogue Trooper movie.
We could have the Souther's done as the cast of Dad's Army and Ian Lavender could still play Private Pike and Daisy Ridley could be a female version of Private Godfrey as she is his great grand daughter
I think we're straying into the realms of fantasy now...
Quote from: karlos on 01 February, 2024, 03:31:22 PM"...with us around, you won't feel blue!"
Whey hey!
And a deepfake Richard Burton to narrate:
"It is war, the great sucking black hole, sloe-black, slow, black, crow-black, sits always in the sky."
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 01 February, 2024, 03:04:36 PMMaybe a Starship Troopers shape would work; creation, training, winning some initial test-battles with ease, some passing clues to a TG but nothing this film relies on, climax with the Quartz Massacre.
Pro: I like the idea of seeing more of the GIs. If they are all as capable of Rogue (which they should be, trained from the test tube to now), the remnant that landed okay should take time to whittle away.
Con: We'll see Rogue working with his squaddie mates but he won't be the loner with talking gun, bag and hat that is a big part of what sets him apart from other characters (and - ugh - 'franchises') out there.
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 01 February, 2024, 05:59:08 PMBagman, jeez, that's a tough one. Baggage Squad, specialising in logistics and systems? Bagpipe Squad, basically the G.I. Regiment's band? Bagatelle Squad, who specialise in soft furnishings? Nope, it ain't gonna work, is it? *sigh*
Okay, so Bagman ruins everything. Again.
Way to go, Bagman.
Maybe BAG is an acronym, and he's known as a BAGman because he's a BAG specialist or works in B&G. We just need to work out a good backronym for BAG - Ballistics & Grenades, Ballistics Air/Ground, etc. The others make fun and say it stands for 'Bawl & Give up' or some such.
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 01 February, 2024, 02:58:36 AMThe Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch Massacre.
That's easy for you to say.
Quote from: Fortnight on 01 February, 2024, 03:17:26 PMI have no skin in the Rogue Trooper game as I've not read any, but I used to be in the camp of "one-off films are better than TV or film series" but my views have changed over the last decade or so.
A standalone film never seems to be sufficient to tell a complex or detailed story without feeling rushed, incomplete, or just badly edited.
I'd sort of agree, but as much as we all love 2000AD, it isn't Marvel or DC and we have to assume there won't be any direct follow-up film unless we're all very lucky.
I'm not sure why the issue of the biochips' names seems so intractable... I agree that the GIs having names that handily fit the equipment they end up in is both hokey and strains credulity.
OTOH, it's not really unusual for squaddies to give one another nicknames, often intended to wind the recipient of the nickname up. It doesn't seem a stretch to imagine that Rogue might give the biochips nicknames that are a bit on the nose, or even that the biochips might choose their own — clone soldiers bred to fight and die aren't likely to be long on imagination (almost certainly by design) and I could see a scene like that working... particularly if they only had designated numbers before they died.
The Battlestar Galactica (reimagined)* callsign route...
* the first time it was reimagined if you're reading this in the future and the second reboot has occurred.
In a world where John Q. Public recently had to swallow such fish bones as Harleen Quinzel, Otto Octavius, Edward Nygma and <choke> Blackagar Boltagon, I think we'll be just fine.
The nickname / call-sign route is the obvious one to take, as with the excellent IDW version of Rogue.
While I have absolutely no problem with Helm, Gunnar and Bagman being the chips' names (though ideally retconned to be given AFTER they were fitted in their respective slots), I honestly think The War Machine GI names were far more convincing.
Friday, Top, Lucky and Eightball sound exactly like names that bored tecchies might give to their lab creations. John Smith did a decent job of continuing that tradition in a Friday text story in an otherwise terrible RT special - Heartache, Dogtag, Gopher etc.
Can't wait for the Mercy Heights mid-credit scene...
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 02 February, 2024, 11:13:12 AMWhile I have absolutely no problem with Helm, Gunnar and Bagman being the chips' names (though ideally retconned to be given AFTER they were fitted in their respective slots), I honestly think The War Machine GI names were far more convincing.
Friday, Top, Lucky and Eightball sound exactly like names that bored tecchies might give to their lab creations. John Smith did a decent job of continuing that tradition in a Friday text story in an otherwise terrible RT special - Heartache, Dogtag, Gopher etc.
I think you're right that the biochips' names should be assigned to them after they die, but for me it really has to be the classic names. I'm sure I saw that Duncan Jones has cast those parts, too.
Oh, absolutely - while I thought that the Friday version's names were probably more realistic, I really don't want them to be in the movie. Dave Gibbons and Will Simpson's dead GIs were never meant to be biochips anyway.
The Scavenger of Souls? Leave it out.
I think a one & done. The Quartz Massacre storyline. & Rogue walking out into the distance at the end. or something akin to a Mad Max movie. But I think the idea of disfigured villains now? Surely we've grown up a bit now.
Quote from: judgeurko on 08 February, 2024, 07:48:45 PMSurely we've grown up a bit now.
I'm not saying it's the correct approach, but it's still quite common:
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Yeah, the one-and-done (with a few hopeful seeds) sounds the best approach to me.
Open to the chemical Hell of Nu Earth, some heroic last stand. Doomed heroes, until... something starts eradicating the enemy. A blue ghost emerging from the chem clouds, twin red lights of his helmet obscuring his face. "This way." "It's him!" "Who?" Smash into credits and flashback to the build up to the Quartz Massacre.
Or, y'know, whatever the pros come up with should be fine.
Quote from: Funt Solo [R] on 08 February, 2024, 08:44:30 PMQuote from: judgeurko on 08 February, 2024, 07:48:45 PMSurely we've grown up a bit now.
I'm not saying it's the correct approach, but it's still quite common:
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Time we stopped it.
Quote from: judgeurko on 08 February, 2024, 07:48:45 PMI think a one & done. The Quartz Massacre storyline. & Rogue walking out into the distance at the end. or something akin to a Mad Max movie. But I think the idea of disfigured villains now? Surely we've grown up a bit now.
You make a good point. Ugly and scarred = evil is incredibly clichéd at this stage of the game - Heath Ledger's Joker was possibly that trope's last great hurrah.
Rogue in the early days was a brilliant concept but it was aimed at kids. The Traitor General looking like a monster was what the kids needed. Conversely, one of latter-era Dredd's greatest bad guys was Martin Sinfield, essentially a jumped-up civil servant with notions of grandeur.
Nikolai Dante had the Tsar and the two incarnations of Dmitri Romanov, who looked like dictators do tend to look - normal people with puffed-up egos.
I love the way Cam Kennedy drew the Traitor General. Having his disfigured helps conceal his identity (which one of the four was he?), which could be used as a plot point. Also Nu Earth is a hellish place and everything you're exposed to can hurt you. I think having disfigured characters to contrast with Rogue helps sell how powerful an advantage he has not needing any protection from the toxic, corrosive environment, as well as his superior skills as a soldier.
Quote from: Dash Decent on 09 February, 2024, 12:46:33 PMI think having disfigured characters to contrast with Rogue helps sell how powerful an advantage he has not needing any protection from the toxic, corrosive environment, as well as his superior skills as a soldier.
I think that's a great observation and could also lend an edge of bitterness to the TG's character. "The freak lives in that crap. I was in it for five seconds and look at me. Six months in a med-pod - and he just walks away. He's only one grunt, he can't change anything, but I will destroy him nonetheless. Because he deserves it."
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11 pages and no-one's asked the most important question:
If we post here enough, will we get our names in the film? ;)
Seriously though, this is all great news.
Good director, good cast, and the Unreal Engine 5 stuff I've seen so far has blown me away with it's quality.
I've got high hopes for this one.
Quote from: Woolly on 12 February, 2024, 03:32:17 PMIf we post here enough, will we get our names in the film?
If anything in a sub plot goes on for a couple of weeks I reckon I'm in with a shot.
Quote from: Fortnight on 12 February, 2024, 03:56:21 PMQuote from: Woolly on 12 February, 2024, 03:32:17 PMIf we post here enough, will we get our names in the film?
If anything in a sub plot goes on for a couple of weeks I reckon I'm in with a shot.
Quickly - retrieve the Biochip from GI 80085 before it expires.
Good work, soldier.
Okay - insert it into the slot in that Millicom issue automated tungsten chain link.
Excellent. Looks like we have the means to retrieve the command Hopper from that blasted Qik-zand.
Welcome back to the fight,
Link.
"Roger that, Sarge"
Quote from: Link Prime on 12 February, 2024, 04:37:24 PMQuote from: Fortnight on 12 February, 2024, 03:56:21 PMQuote from: Woolly on 12 February, 2024, 03:32:17 PMIf we post here enough, will we get our names in the film?
If anything in a sub plot goes on for a couple of weeks I reckon I'm in with a shot.
Quickly - retrieve the Biochip from GI 80085 before it expires.
Good work, soldier.
Okay - insert it into the slot in that Millicom issue automated tungsten chain link.
Excellent. Looks like we have the means to retrieve the command Hopper from that blasted Qik-zand.
Welcome back to the fight, Link.
"Roger that, Sarge"
"Infantryman Woolly - Duck!"
"What?"
[Head explodes]
"Those Nort b*stards, they took out his chip!"
Quote from: Woolly on 12 February, 2024, 03:32:17 PM11 pages and no-one's asked the most important question:
If we post here enough, will we get our names in the film? ;)
Which reminds me, I think it's very important to say that Duncan Jones is the most talented and frankly most handsome director in Hollywood today.
Duncan, I would accept a cameo as a Nort infantrymen getting his brains blown out as acceptable recumpense for the 2 hours I wasted watching WARCRAFT.
I feel it's only fair now.
Infantryman "Kafka" does not, alas, have the cool factor that Bagman, Helm and Gunner possess. And I can just imagine the uproar if one of the GI's was consistently being referred to as "Paddy" throughout the movie.
Don't forget the hideously mutated Legendary Shark that lurks in the Great Chem-Sea eating battleships...
I'm starting to regret using my own name now. But then,I've already had a Gotham City crime boss named after me, and there was a robot called Salyx in Tony Luke's Terra Meks movie, so I mustn't be greedy.
Quote from: Woolly on 12 February, 2024, 03:32:17 PMIf we post here enough, will we get our names in the film? ;)
Finally, my time has come. What better name for the trooper sent in to take out enemy sentries under cover of darkness.
Quote from: Funt Solo [R] on 08 February, 2024, 08:44:30 PMQuote from: judgeurko on 08 February, 2024, 07:48:45 PMSurely we've grown up a bit now.
I'm not saying it's the correct approach, but it's still quite common:
(https://www.comicbasics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/High-Evolutionary-real-face-unmasked-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Vol.-3-1300x708.webp)
I think we need to be a little careful before leaping straight to cries "lazy trope" — the High Evolutionary, for example, isn't a villain
because he's disfigured, he's disfigured
because he's a villain.(In the absence of spoiler tags, I'll refrain from explaining how he ends up in this state in GotG3.)
That Wilson commission is incredible
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 13 February, 2024, 10:24:45 AMQuote from: Funt Solo [R] on 08 February, 2024, 08:44:30 PMQuote from: judgeurko on 08 February, 2024, 07:48:45 PMSurely we've grown up a bit now.
I'm not saying it's the correct approach, but it's still quite common:
(https://www.comicbasics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/High-Evolutionary-real-face-unmasked-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Vol.-3-1300x708.webp)
I think we need to be a little careful before leaping straight to cries "lazy trope" — the High Evolutionary, for example, isn't a villain because he's disfigured, he's disfigured because he's a villain.
(In the absence of spoiler tags, I'll refrain from explaining how he ends up in this state in GotG3.)
In the absence of a Like button, I'll just say good point.
The Rebellion Films studio seems to use similar tech to the volume used on the Star Wars shows (which I'm pretty sure also use Unreal Engine to render the environments and backdrops that they shoot the actors against), so given that and the showreel stuff they've put out I did assume this would be a mix of CG and live action when I saw the announcement.
I'm sure everyone here will have seen this stuff already, but found it interesting to watch and imagine how a Rogue Trooper production could look.
The casting does give the impression it's a mocap and voice situation mind you. I'm really thrilled this is happening, as much as I got excited about the idea of a live action Rogue movie an animated version done right could end up being really special, can't wait to see it!
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 13 February, 2024, 05:15:07 PMThe Rebellion Films studio seems to use similar tech to the volume used on the Star Wars shows (which I'm pretty sure also use Unreal Engine to render the environments and backdrops that they shoot the actors against), so given that and the showreel stuff they've put out I did assume this would be a mix of CG and live action when I saw the announcement.
I'm sure everyone here will have seen this stuff already, but found it interesting to watch and imagine how a Rogue Trooper production could look.
The casting does give the impression it's a mocap and voice situation mind you. I'm really thrilled this is happening, as much as I got excited about the idea of a live action Rogue movie an animated version done right could end up being really special, can't wait to see it!
If I could cash in my career and do-over, I'd be working in visual effects. Since I first saw a Ray Harryhausen film I've loved all that stuff.
Quote from: Keef Monkey on 13 February, 2024, 05:15:07 PMThe Rebellion Films studio seems to use similar tech to the volume used on the Star Wars shows (which I'm pretty sure also use Unreal Engine to render the environments and backdrops that they shoot the actors against), so given that and the showreel stuff they've put out I did assume this would be a mix of CG and live action when I saw the announcement.
I'm sure everyone here will have seen this stuff already, but found it interesting to watch and imagine how a Rogue Trooper production could look.
The casting does give the impression it's a mocap and voice situation mind you. I'm really thrilled this is happening, as much as I got excited about the idea of a live action Rogue movie an animated version done right could end up being really special, can't wait to see it!
The LED wall Rebellion used for Percival was just a temp hire one summer - they have something they call the volume but it's a motion capture volume (basically their mocap division, audiomotion moved in a while back and is set up in their main stage.
As for Rogue, it's definitely motion capture CGI, although some of it will be keyframed too - they've done the main facial mocap of the leads, but still have a bunch of mocap for bodies etc which they said was being done down in Poole. (They were recruiting a few roles recently and are still looking for an Mid-level Unreal bod)
I went to a talk by Treehouse Digital back in November and they showed sample facial motion capture of a grizzled old guy, guess it could have been a Nort or something unconnected.
They talked about their pipeline but this was before the announcement, so didn't show much.
is something along the lines they showed - basically Unreal has a system called Metahuman Animator which makes this kind of thing very quick and a high level - you can get good results even with an iphone and head rig.
As for a career in VFX - it's like games - crunch periods, insecure - the past year with the strikes was particularly bad, although hopefully picking up...
Ah thanks for the extra info, that's interesting. That metahuman example is really impressive, will be curious to see if they go for that kind of photorealism or something more stylized. Always thought I'd be most into something that looked like the comic art come to life but looking at that demo I think I'd be bowled over with whatever approach they take! Exciting times.
No problem!
It might be more stylised - I think they mentioned something about that side, but they showed another (non-Rogue) project which was much more stylised - so I might be getting the two mixed up.
The grizzled guy/maybe Nort was a bit grotesque, but not massively stylised - I guess if you've a blue lead character with blank eyes, you might want to push it anyway - Dave Gibbons mentioned that he cross-hatched Rogue's skin to give it a more reptilian look, to go with the Cobra looking helmet but that kind of thing passed successive artists by.
Unfortunately the panel wasn't recorded (AFAIK) and they asked people not to, but it was interesting (from a tech point of view)
I imagine Rogue's skin to be many shades of blue, shifting chameleon-like in the chem-haze as a constantly shifting (and/or consciously controlled) genetically installed camouflage. A soldier looks into the swirling mist, part of it looks a little odd, like a will o' the wisp, and then two white eyes appear...
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 09 February, 2024, 11:17:46 AMQuote from: judgeurko on 08 February, 2024, 07:48:45 PMI think a one & done. The Quartz Massacre storyline. & Rogue walking out into the distance at the end. or something akin to a Mad Max movie. But I think the idea of disfigured villains now? Surely we've grown up a bit now.
You make a good point. Ugly and scarred = evil is incredibly clichéd at this stage of the game - Heath Ledger's Joker was possibly that trope's last great hurrah.
Trump?
Quote from: Proudhuff on 14 February, 2024, 01:10:57 PMQuote from: JayzusB.Christ on 09 February, 2024, 11:17:46 AMQuote from: judgeurko on 08 February, 2024, 07:48:45 PMI think a one & done. The Quartz Massacre storyline. & Rogue walking out into the distance at the end. or something akin to a Mad Max movie. But I think the idea of disfigured villains now? Surely we've grown up a bit now.
You make a good point. Ugly and scarred = evil is incredibly clichéd at this stage of the game - Heath Ledger's Joker was possibly that trope's last great hurrah.
Trump?
Surely not. I mean, Elvis (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/trump-asked-his-followers-if-they-think-he-looks-like-elvis-in-a-strange-social-media-post/amp_articleshow/107405378.cms) was a handsome fella, and they're practically doppelgangers.
Donald Trump as the evil Agent Orange.
Heh. Surprised there wasn't an Agent Orange in RT - there was no shortage of punny names.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 14 February, 2024, 07:53:23 PMthere was no shortage of punny names.
I'm still waiting for a Ronnie Barker to show up in Kingdom.
Quote from: I, Cosh on 13 February, 2024, 09:46:51 AMQuote from: Woolly on 12 February, 2024, 03:32:17 PMIf we post here enough, will we get our names in the film? ;)
Finally, my time has come.
We'll give you that one.
Still, not the same league as nouveau A-listers
Rogue Judge,
Rogue69 or
Trooper McFad.
My first name's already the name of the Souther H.Q. (if you completely misspell and mispronounce it in a horrendous fashion).
Milcolm? I'm close, I bet.
A few of our number got mentioned in the Dredd movie. Goaty got his name graffitied twice, AFAIR, and Joe Soap even got his avatar displayed on a billboard. Much deserved in both cases, but I'm still jealous.
I suppose there's always the option for the collective forum membership to go full-on Spartacus on this, and change their individual usernames here to "Rogue Trooper". At least that way we're all guaranteed to get a mention in the movie. :lol:
"No, I'm Rogue_Trooper_11235!"
"I'm Rogue Trooper, and so's my wife".
"No, I am Rogue Trooper!"
"Shut up Bagman!"
Quote from: nxylas on 17 February, 2024, 05:43:30 PM"I'm Rogue Trooper, and so's my wife".
"I'll thump you if you call me Major Magnum again."
It seemed like the marketing campaign for Dredd was partly to engage 2000AD fans and to hope that positive word of mouth built up. First part of the plan certainly worked, the fans were in raptures. Only issue was that word of mouth doesn't really do anything for movies. They succeed or fail in the first 3 days. By the time many people knew that Dredd was good it had tanked at the box office 2 years previously.
I don't know how Rebellion is planning to deal with the same issue this time around. Obviously there isn't going to be a £100m advertising blitz. I hope the Rogue movie will be given time to build up a following.
That's not to say that naming one of the GI's "J B Assistant" isn't a massively great idea - it clearly is a vital, vital step on the road to glory - just that it'll take a bit more than getting us on board to make big screen Rogue Trooper a success.
Quote from: lincnash on 17 February, 2024, 06:47:39 PMQuote from: nxylas on 17 February, 2024, 05:43:30 PM"I'm Rogue Trooper, and so's my wife".
"I'll thump you if you call me Major Magnum again."
"Listen, I'm only telling the truth, you have got a very big ice lolly".
Quote from: Jimmy Baker's Assistant on 17 February, 2024, 08:40:46 PMIt seemed like the marketing campaign for Dredd was partly to engage 2000AD fans and to hope that positive word of mouth built up. First part of the plan certainly worked, the fans were in raptures. Only issue was that word of mouth doesn't really do anything for movies. They succeed or fail in the first 3 days. By the time many people knew that Dredd was good it had tanked at the box office 2 years previously.
I don't know how Rebellion is planning to deal with the same issue this time around. Obviously there isn't going to be a £100m advertising blitz. I hope the Rogue movie will be given time to build up a following.
That's not to say that naming one of the GI's "J B Assistant" isn't a massively great idea - it clearly is a vital, vital step on the road to glory - just that it'll take a bit more than getting us on board to make big screen Rogue Trooper a success.
Hopefully the fact that it's Duncan Jones directing will be publicity in itself. He's a known and respected director.
Also he's Zowie Bowie, which I have to admit is part of the reason I gave
Moon a shot. Fortunately it was excellent so the celebrity dad thing isn't even a factor any more for me.
I've no idea how it's going to work, publicity wise
They haven't mentioned how it's been financed, if any main studio has picked it up - Rebellion do have their own distribution company called Central City Media, but it's mostly films you won't have heard of going to digital platforms like Apple, Amazon, Google Play store
It mentions theatrical but it might be one of these limited release deals - then onto digital.
QuoteHopefully the fact that it's Duncan Jones directing will be publicity in itself. He's a known and respected director.
Well that didn't work for Dredd even though they had Danny Boyle and Alex Garland. If you're releasing a film, you have to tell everyone yourself, not leave it to existing fans to do it for you.
As if Nu Earth isn't dangerous enough without vid-vultures like Jones giving away my position.
Quote from: Richard on 18 February, 2024, 05:08:28 PMQuoteHopefully the fact that it's Duncan Jones directing will be publicity in itself. He's a known and respected director.
Well that didn't work for Dredd even though they had Danny Boyle and Alex Garland. If you're releasing a film, you have to tell everyone yourself, not leave it to existing fans to do it for you.
Dredd didn't have Danny Boyle.
Cannon & Ball, wasn't it?
Quote from: judgeurko on 28 February, 2024, 07:01:38 PMDredd didn't have Danny Boyle.
It was made by his production company, DNA Films.
I love this place.
QuoteIt was made by his production company, DNA Films.
This comment prompted me to look up DNA Films on Companies House, and I found that the director of DNA Films, Andrew MacDonald, founded a new company called 28 Years Later Ltd only last month. Since DNA Films also made 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later, this is a good sign.
28 years Later was confirmed in January
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/28-years-later-lands-home-sony-1235804926/
Quote from: nxylas on 28 February, 2024, 10:50:28 PMQuote from: judgeurko on 28 February, 2024, 07:01:38 PMDredd didn't have Danny Boyle.
It was made by his production company, DNA Films.
Danny Boyle has directed several films produced by DNA Films, but has no formal connection with the company.
I've seen him comment on this frequent misconception that he's one of the owners.
Quote from: nxylas on 28 February, 2024, 10:50:28 PMQuote from: judgeurko on 28 February, 2024, 07:01:38 PMDredd didn't have Danny Boyle.
It was made by his production company, DNA Films.
Not something the general public would be aware of. Nor does it mean he had any noteworthy involvement in.
Quote from: rogue69 on 29 February, 2024, 09:21:27 AM28 years Later was confirmed in January
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/28-years-later-lands-home-sony-1235804926/
I vaguely remember someone saying that film, whose name escapes me, about a Mad-Max-style dystopian Scotland walled off from the rest of the UK was supposed to be a sequel to 28 Weeks Later, but maybe that was just fan-fuelled speculation. There were no zombies in it, anyway.
Mad MacMax - The Rude Worrier.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 29 February, 2024, 06:28:36 PMI vaguely remember someone saying that film, whose name escapes me, about a Mad-Max-style dystopian Scotland walled off from the rest of the UK was supposed to be a sequel to 28 Weeks Later, but maybe that was just fan-fuelled speculation. There were no zombies in it, anyway.
Sounds like Neil Marshall's
Doomsday... I haven't seen it, but I also haven't met anyone who says it's any good. These two things may not be unrelated.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 February, 2024, 08:02:38 PMQuote from: JayzusB.Christ on 29 February, 2024, 06:28:36 PMI vaguely remember someone saying that film, whose name escapes me, about a Mad-Max-style dystopian Scotland walled off from the rest of the UK was supposed to be a sequel to 28 Weeks Later, but maybe that was just fan-fuelled speculation. There were no zombies in it, anyway.
Sounds like Neil Marshall's Doomsday... I haven't seen it, but I also haven't met anyone who says it's any good. These two things may not be unrelated.
Must be. I thought it was OK, though hardly unmissable.
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 29 February, 2024, 07:45:50 PMMad MacMax - The Rude Worrier.
Ha! I have to admit I first read that as Mad Max McMad, thanks to Blackadder.
Which is better, heh. Perhaps the only possible improvement would be the addition of the prefix 'Wee.'
I really like Doomsday. It's objectively crap, but its very enthusiastic. It's got Mad Max, zombies and knights on horseback all in the same film and plays it totally straight.
Oh aye Doomsday goes hard. It plays out like a zero budget genre project in the vein of Michael J Murphy and gives it a cash injection without skimping on the absurdity.
It is, as previously stated, pap but the sort of big budget genre pomposity that we sadly just don't see major studious taking a risk on anymore.
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 29 February, 2024, 08:02:38 PMQuote from: JayzusB.Christ on 29 February, 2024, 06:28:36 PMI vaguely remember someone saying that film, whose name escapes me, about a Mad-Max-style dystopian Scotland walled off from the rest of the UK was supposed to be a sequel to 28 Weeks Later, but maybe that was just fan-fuelled speculation. There were no zombies in it, anyway.
Sounds like Neil Marshall's Doomsday... I haven't seen it, but I also haven't met anyone who says it's any good. These two things may not be unrelated.
It was a decent mash up of Escape From New York & Mad MAx.
Quote from: judgeurko on 28 February, 2024, 07:01:38 PMDredd didn't have Danny Boyle.
Just don't put the squeeze on him.
If the landscape and tanks and hoppas and gun emplacements etc are being generated using Unreal, does that mean there will be Unreal files capable of being used to create a new RT computer game? Perhaps they have to be ported/stepped down in some way from the 'movie scenery' Unreal to the 'generate a game world' Unreal, but could it work?
I think Rebellion would be smart to have a game ready to capitalise on the success of the movie. Rather than revamp the graphics of the Gordon Rennie scripted game yet again, they'd be better off creating a sequel. And by sequel I really mean something that is like some extra chapters in the middle of the original game (just like recent RT is set in the midst of the hunt for the Traitor General) so that there's a tie-in factor and not "What is all this Horst stuff?"
Quote from: Barrington Boots on 01 March, 2024, 09:36:03 AMI really like Doomsday. It's objectively crap, but its very enthusiastic.
There's a quote for the film poster right there.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 12 March, 2024, 08:48:59 AMQuote from: Barrington Boots on 01 March, 2024, 09:36:03 AMI really like Doomsday. It's objectively crap, but its very enthusiastic.
There's a quote for the film poster right there.
My favourite every quote on Doomsday, from a movie podcast:
"Congratulations, Neil Marshall. You've made your very own Paul WS Anderson movie."
i.e. i's a movie just composed of rip-offs/homages of better films made by better directors.
Quote from: Dash Decent on 12 March, 2024, 07:20:39 AMIf the landscape and tanks and hoppas and gun emplacements etc are being generated using Unreal, does that mean there will be Unreal files capable of being used to create a new RT computer game? Perhaps they have to be ported/stepped down in some way from the 'movie scenery' Unreal to the 'generate a game world' Unreal, but could it work?
I think Rebellion would be smart to have a game ready to capitalise on the success of the movie. Rather than revamp the graphics of the Gordon Rennie scripted game yet again, they'd be better off creating a sequel. And by sequel I really mean something that is like some extra chapters in the middle of the original game (just like recent RT is set in the midst of the hunt for the Traitor General) so that there's a tie-in factor and not "What is all this Horst stuff?"
Asset creation is only a portion of it, they would almost certainly need dumbing down to be usable in whatever Rebellion use these days - although Unreal's a real-time engine, it doesn't necessarily follow that they actually render everything out in real-time (more taking 10 secs/a frame rather than 30 frames/sec
There's still game and level design, voice acting, branchable animation, play-testing etc.
I don't think Redux did particularly well (and it was 10 year old gameplay and animation, with a few new models by that point)
I wouldn't hold your breath.
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 01 February, 2024, 05:59:08 PMTo bring this discussion back to an entirely more boring dimension, I was thinking about the problematic names and whether some tortured rationalisation might be found to keep them in the story.
So, how about a unit of deep-penetration soldiers, specialised in making lone forays deep inside enemy lines
I think that was covered with GI Buttplug
:lol:
Boyle - boil, as in zit. Which you squeeze.
Took me a while too, as Boyle is both a fairly common name and a town in Ireland.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 17 April, 2024, 09:17:14 PMBoyle - boil, as in zit. Which you squeeze.
Took me a while too, as Boyle is both a fairly common name and a town in Ireland.
Haha ty.
Empire magazine (May, I think) has a bit of blurb on the upcoming Rogue Trooper movie.