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What is gamergate?

Started by Proteus4, 13 October, 2014, 02:53:40 AM

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J.Smith

Quote from: IndigoPrime on 13 October, 2014, 02:39:12 PM
We all need to do better, and call out the people (almost all men) being arseholes.

See, but that's perhaps what I find most depressing about the whole affair, and similar ones like it - those with the common sense to see how totally wrong it all is are in my opinion far too quiet on the matter, waiting for it pass by like similar incidents. But the thing is, what all these loud mouth pricks are is bullies - pure and simple - and the only way to shut up a bully is to refuse in their face to take or listen to their shit any longer. The alternative is that we ignore them and wait for them to go away - but what good will that have done once they rear their ugly heads again and start all over?

CheechFU

Gamergate has turned into this:

Feminsts: Games demean women by depicting us with bows in our hair

Gamers: Fuck you bitch.

Feminists: You are obviously sexist. I claim this because A: you disagree with the bow theory and B: You called me a bitch.

Gamers: I will goomba stomp you and your fucking family, I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE YOU FUCKING DYKE BITCH

Feminists panic and undermine their ideals by running away and/or to the press

Then all the journos white knight the feminists in the hope of getting an e-handjob and undermine the whole feminist movement more by treating it completely differently to when men are attacked on the internet.

It's pretty much a circle jerk of shouty retards on the internet doing what shouty internet tards do best, grief themselves.

It's not so much sexism but more that people are fucking arseholes, which should be common knowledge by now.

Jon

Quote from: CheechFU on 13 October, 2014, 10:55:34 PM


Gamers: I will goomba stomp you and your fucking family, I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE YOU FUCKING DYKE BITCH

Feminists panic and undermine their ideals by running away and/or to the press



I'm probably missing a whole cart-load of tongue and cheek, but that seems unfair. If someone published details of my address on the internet and issued death threats, I'd fucking run away. I don't feel that undermines anything and when it's already in the public forum, I suspect the press would get involved regardless.

IndigoPrime

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Quote from: CheechFU on 13 October, 2014, 10:55:34 PMThen all the journos white knight the feminists in the hope of getting an e-handjob and undermine the whole feminist movement more by treating it completely differently to when men are attacked on the internet.
Seriously?

I just...

*sets fire to the forum*

TordelBack

Quote from: CheechFU on 13 October, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Feminists panic and undermine their ideals by running away and/or to the press

CheechFu you're generally an informed and entertaining chap on matters internet, but really.  Merely participating in normal online activities shouldn't mean digging in to resist countless attacks on your character and threats against your person.  There is a vast disparity in the frequency, quantity and character of attacks when it's women online: yes, we've all enjoyed girding our loins and going in for a good barney on sites that are known for it, but for women it's almost any site or any topic where they dare to put their head above the parapet.  It's Calvin's G.R.O.S.S. rewritten with rape threats, and it's far more than 'people are just arseholes'.

-Dunk!-

It's a very sad, weird (online) world where the phrase "White Knight" is spat out with venom and used as a term of abuse.

A tiny portion of hateful lonely inmates are trying to run the vast asylum of games.

Avoid.

Dunk!


Richmond Clements

Quote from: CheechFU on 13 October, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Gamergate has turned into this:

Feminsts: Games demean women by depicting us with bows in our hair

Gamers: Fuck you bitch.

Feminists: You are obviously sexist. I claim this because A: you disagree with the bow theory and B: You called me a bitch.

Gamers: I will goomba stomp you and your fucking family, I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE YOU FUCKING DYKE BITCH

Feminists panic and undermine their ideals by running away and/or to the press

Then all the journos white knight the feminists in the hope of getting an e-handjob and undermine the whole feminist movement more by treating it completely differently to when men are attacked on the internet.

It's pretty much a circle jerk of shouty retards on the internet doing what shouty internet tards do best, grief themselves.

It's not so much sexism but more that people are fucking arseholes, which should be common knowledge by now.

Consider yourself on a warning.

Dandontdare

Just been reading up on this - what a depressing mess, people are such dicks. But I learned a new word - to "dox" somebody.

GordonR

#23
How this issue looks to the sane, sensible people in the real world, beyond the entitlement-obsessed men-children in games (and comics):

http://www.businessinsider.com/gamergate-death-threats-2014-10

To summarise, when one side of an argument about perceived sexism and misogyny is routinely sending death and rape threats to the other, it should be fairly obvious which side you should be lining up behind, with none of the fairly shameful 'yes, but...' ("....yes, but apparently one of them's a bit of a slut."  "...yes, but feminists are kinda whiny and annoying, so...") stuff that we've heard even here.

Proudhuff

Didn't something similar happen in comics a few years ago and Mark Millar sponsor the troll hunt?

Now that would be a Kickstarter I'd pay into!
DDT did a job on me

GordonR

I'd argue that publicly shaming one troll - and making a bit of a publicity opp out of it - doesn't quite wash away the slimy veneer of rape refs and casual misogyny and so generously slathered over too much of Mark's work.

ThryllSeekyr

It does not bother me that people know where I live, because people always seem to find you when they really need to have the resources for it.

Richmond Clements

Quote from: ThryllSeekyr on 14 October, 2014, 08:38:10 PM
It does not bother me that people know where I live, because people always seem to find you when they really need to have the resources for it.

And the prize for not fucking understanding the point at all goes to...

CheechFU

Quote from: Richmond Clements on 14 October, 2014, 08:49:56 AM
Quote from: CheechFU on 13 October, 2014, 10:55:34 PM
Gamergate has turned into this:

Feminsts: Games demean women by depicting us with bows in our hair

Gamers: Fuck you bitch.

Feminists: You are obviously sexist. I claim this because A: you disagree with the bow theory and B: You called me a bitch.

Gamers: I will goomba stomp you and your fucking family, I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE YOU FUCKING DYKE BITCH

Feminists panic and undermine their ideals by running away and/or to the press

Then all the journos white knight the feminists in the hope of getting an e-handjob and undermine the whole feminist movement more by treating it completely differently to when men are attacked on the internet.

It's pretty much a circle jerk of shouty retards on the internet doing what shouty internet tards do best, grief themselves.

It's not so much sexism but more that people are fucking arseholes, which should be common knowledge by now.

Consider yourself on a warning.
I thought that was pretty ballanced
I'm unable to pm you Because The Internet, I'm curious as to why I should be on a warning. Maybe something was lost in the internet translation..
Care to let me know?

Definitely Not Mister Pops

You may quote me on that.