Some questions about the Judge Dredd universe

[Smith]

GTA Mega City 1?

[malkymac]

Like somebody mentioned,he does take off his helmet,its just that we never see his face.He even showers with his helmet.
We do see it once;when it was altered so he can infiltrate a criminal organization.And we do see Rico's face,but after Titan,so...not really.

There is a picture of his clone dad here - guess he would look pretty much like that.

[TordelBack]

I really want to ride the Lawmaster in Mega-City One with a large, open-world structure.

So say we all. It's the Marianne Faithful song of squaxxdom.

[Tjm86]

There is a picture of his clone dad here - guess he would look pretty much like that.

Possibly, but is it not also possible that subtle genetic manipulation was used to alter his appearance? 

[Frank]

There is a picture of his clone dad here - guess he would look pretty much like that.

Possibly, but is it not also possible that subtle genetic manipulation was used to alter his appearance? 

Possible, but never mentioned in forty years of comics. The residents of Fargoville say Dredd's the spit of the original and arrest him for 'being in illegal possession of the sacred blood and flesh of Eustace Fargo' (Origins, 1509 and 1510).

Dredd and Rico were cloned from Fargo; they're described and depicted as 'duplicates' of the other (Blood Cadets, 1187). If one clone's face is altered to make them distinct from the original, then the clones would be altered to look different to each other [1].

Kraken was cloned from Fargo's genetic material [2] and was depicted as looking identical to Dredd - any 'subtle manipulation' would have to be limited to the eye area (and has never been mentioned) [3]. It's possible ...


[1] Dolman had his face changed when he left the Department, to stop him looking identical to Dredd and Rico 2

[2] In Sector House, whether Rico 2 was cloned from Dredd or Fargo is described as amounting to the same thing.

[3] It's not as if genetic altering has never been mentioned. The female Dredd clone from The Forsaken doesn't have a huge chin and Grumpy Cat mouth

[Smith]

Was that intentional?
Origins never show Fargos face;for obvious reasons;but he looks a bit different then here.His lower jaw does anyway.

[Dark Jimbo]

Was that intentional?
Origins never show Fargos face;for obvious reasons;but he looks a bit different then here.His lower jaw does anyway.

They were drawn by artists with completely different styles, to be fair. That's a bit like pointing at pictures of Dredd drawn by, say, Simon Davis and Colin Macneil and arguing that Dredd must have had a face change because he looks different in each one.

[Smith]

Ofc,there is that;but I mean,did we know Dredd is Fargos clone at that point,or is it a bit of early weirdness?

[Frank]

Was that intentional? Origins never show Fargos face;for obvious reasons;but he looks a bit different then here.His lower jaw does anyway.

Difficult to say. That page appeared on the 4th of August 1984 (Dredd Angel, 377) and the reader discovered Dredd was a Fargo clone on the 27th of October that same year (A Case For Treatment, 379).

Whether TB Grover was laying the groundwork for the later story's revelation by introducing the idea that Fargo was cloned or just threw in that detail of Dredd's heritage as a spontaneous narrative pun on the title Father Of Justice [1] is a matter of conjecture [2].

What is certain is that every time since the information that Dredd's a Fargo clone saw print, John Wagner has gone to conspicuous lengths (often ridiculous lengths) to obscure the features of Fargo and every other Dredd clone. John Wagner clearly understands the word clone to mean perfect duplicate [3].


[1] ... Freud's big on the significance of puns (and fathers), so it's appropriate for a story that put Dredd on the psychiatrist's chair

[2] Wagner's on record as saying he makes every story up as he goes along, but then he seems to have planned out at least the broad details of The Dead Man/Necropolis some time in advance.

[3] ... as does the rest of the world - with the exception of the casting director of the 1995 Judge Dredd movie

[Tjm86]

The residents of Fargoville say Dredd's the spit of the original and arrest him for 'being in illegal possession of the sacred blood and flesh of Eustace Fargo' (Origins,

Gah, forgot that one.  Fair point.

[Sandman1]

GTA Mega City 1?

Because it is an open level design? No, because the enormous city is one of the most interesting ones in the history of comics, both in terms of architecture and its contrasts in relation to the inhabitants. The appearance strengthens Dredd, like mister Waynes relation to Gotham City.   

[Smith]

GTA Mega City 1?

Because it is an open level design? No, because the enormous city is one of the most interesting ones in the history of comics, both in terms of architecture and its contrasts in relation to the inhabitants. The appearance strengthens Dredd, like mister Waynes relation to Gotham City.   

i was just kidding. 

[radiator]

Personally I don't want the precise geography of MC1, and the wider world of Dredd for that matter, to ever be locked down. The layout of the city has always been (imo deliberately) vague and malleable, and I'd prefer it to stay that way. I see it like Springfield from The Simpsons - the geography is what it needs to be to facilitate a good story/gag, and in the case of MC-1, surely the point of making it so vast in the first place is so that its limited only by the imagination of the writer, and you can suddenly introduce whole areas and concepts that have never mentioned previously?

While it's great to lay out a general set of rules for a fictional universe, to me all the fun and mystery from things like Star Wars have been severely diminished by this need to have everything be explained and catalogued in the minutest detail, every little bit of ambiguity and backstory filled in.

[Sandman1]

Why do you think that Dredd hasn't achieved success in other media? The two heavy hitters in the business are pumping out films, often with great revenue, like there's no tomorrow, but the latest film about Dredd tanked at the box office. The film from 95, in my opinion, is mostly composed of crap.   

[Smith]

Probably because the previous movie was terrible,so that might have scared people.
And it didnt have the muscle of Disney or WB behind it.
But if nothing,its still achived a cult classic standing.